Scriptures on Living Together Before Marriage

Living Together Before Marriage Series:
    ● Statistics on Living Together Before Marriage
    ● Scriptures on Living Together Before Marriage
    ● Living Together Without Sex
    ● What If We Already Lived Together Before Marriage?

“The honeymoon was over before the wedding day ever arrived.” (See the testimony below.) Last month I posted some statistics on living together before marriage. Since then I have received a number of inquiries as to what the Bible says about living together. So in this post I would like to share some of the Biblical teaching about living together before marriage.

The statistics in last month’s post showed a high correlation between living together and undesirable outcomes. This should not be surprising, because the Bible has some strong things to say about living together. God is a loving God, and he gives us his commands for our protection. Those who choose not to live together before marriage will likely avoid many of the negative outcomes described in the earlier post. Here are some Scriptures on living together before marriage:

  • Proverbs 14:12“There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.”  This Scripture stands against the arguments, “Everyone is doing it. It’s the new way. It’s accepted in society.” That may all be true, but just because a path seems right doesn’t make it so.
  • Ecclesiastes 3:1,5“There is a time for everything and a season for every activity under heaven … a time to embrace and a time to refrain.”  As the following Scriptures indicate, the right time for living together is after marriage — not the year before, not the month before, not the night before. There is a time to embrace, and a time to refrain.
  • 1 Corinthians 6:18“Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.”  Living together almost always involves premarital sex. By living together before marriage, you dishonor both yourself and your partner.
  • 1 Corinthians 7:8-9“Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.”  This isn’t the place to get into why Paul recommends singleness over marriage in this particular passage. However, it is important to note that the Bible encourages a couple that is struggling with sexual temptation to marry rather than burn with passion. Of course, this assumes a couple that is ready for marriage. I recommend that all couples get good premarital counseling from a pastor or Christian counselor before getting married.
  • Galatians 6:7-8“Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.”  Although the original word in the Greek means “to sneer or to scorn,” the English word “mock” is instructive when it comes to living together. “To mock” means “to imitate, to pretend in order to deceive.” You can’t do that to God without consequences, and you can’t do that with marriage. Living together is literally a mockery or imitation of marriage in that it does not require a public commitment or lifetime vow of faithfulness.
  • 1 Thessalonians 4:3-6“It is God’s will that you should … avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him.”  To “wrong” someone in this verse means “to exceed the proper limits.” To “take advantage” means “to defraud, or to take more than you’re entitled to.” It is the picture of someone who takes more than they should while selfishly disregarding the best interests of others. When we live together, we exceed the limits God has set for us. We take more than we’re entitled to.
  • Hebrews 13:4“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.”  The marriage bed can only be kept pure when the sexual relationship is kept within marriage. Anything else brings God’s judgment. Do you love your partner? Then why would you invite God’s judgment into their life? Why would you willfully rob them of God’s blessing?

You will notice from these Bible verses that I am assuming couples who live together are also sexually involved. And I think in most cases that’s a pretty fair assumption. I will address the (much rarer) situation of couples who live together but are not sexually active in a later post. But let me end this post by sharing the testimony of a young woman that I think effectively sums up some of the major problems of living together before marriage.

I wish I could tell every young adult in America that you truly will reap what you sow. Living together may seem wonderful initially … but eventually it creates more problems than you can imagine. I lived with my boyfriend for two years before we got married. I knew I was breaking my parents’ hearts, as well as my Heavenly Father’s heart! My boyfriend was not a Christian, but I figured I could change him if we moved in together.

The “this-is-yours, that-is-mine” mentality that enabled us to “successfully” live together completely unraveled once we got married. We had become too separate and selfish, making it nearly impossible to become “one flesh.”  The honeymoon was over before the wedding day ever arrived.  (Excerpt from letter printed in “Family Feedback,” Focus on the Family, May 1994, p.23)

Do you have any thoughts or response to all this? Feel free to share them in the comments.

Check out the other posts in the Living Together Before Marriage series:
    ● Statistics on Living Together Before Marriage
    ● Scriptures on Living Together Before Marriage
    ● Living Together Without Sex
    ● What If We Already Lived Together Before Marriage?
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87 Comments

  1. Sharon Gamble says:

    I have often thought that you can’t “practice” commitment. You either are. Or you are not. So, living together is not a good “trial run” for marriage. It doesn’t involve the “for better or for worse” no matter what part. Living together well proves, well, that you can live together well! To be married means that you are there in good times and bad, whether your spouse is healthy or ill, in a good mood or a bad one. The joy of being in a marriage is that you can count on the other to stick it out with you! (Obvious exceptions to this would be staying with a married spouse who beat and abused or who broke the marital bonds with infidelity…) Thanks for the Scriptural support for marriage, Ray!

  2. Julie says:

    When is the fourth post coming or have I missed it and can’t find it.

  3. Ray Fowler says:

    Julie – Thanks for asking! No, you didn’t miss it. The fourth post will be coming later this month (probably next week), and I will add the link to it on the other posts in the series once it has published.

  4. Greg Tegman says:

    Dear Ray, I appreciate your forthright position on unmarried couples
    living under the same roof. I cannot argue with the verses you used. I lost my job and have no other place to stay. We have successfully abstained from sex and have no desire to go there for a year now. I am sleeping in my own bed in another bedroom for free right now. If this a sin in spite of my hopefully temporary financial dilemna,am I still sinning and out of fellowship with God because of this?. I’m stuck on this one. How bad of a sin is this?. I want to do the right thing and get my own place. Sleeping in the woods does not sound appealing. I don’t want to destroy my fellowship with Christ either.

  5. Ray Fowler says:

    Greg – Thanks for a great question. I am sorry to hear about your loss of employment. I hope you find work soon.

    As I read your comment, it seems like you and your girlfriend are doing a lot of things right. You are committed to abstaining sexually, you are sleeping in separate bedrooms, you would prefer to have a place of your own, and you want to keep growing in fellowship with Christ. That is all good stuff.

    The problem with living together before marriage (even without sex) is that it opens you up to continual temptation, it can hurt your Christian testimony, and it could have a negative effect on your relationship later on when you do get married.

    I don’t believe God wants you to sleep in the woods :-) , but I don’t believe he wants you living together either. Are the two of you ready to get married yet? If not, have you checked with family, friends or church to see if someone may be able to put you up temporarily? Ask God if he can show you another way.

    In the meantime, it sounds like you are doing the best you can in a difficult situation. Remember, God is a God of forgiveness and grace. If you continue to bring this to Christ in prayer, I believe God will honor your desire to do the right thing and will provide an answer for you.

  6. Chelle says:

    I am currently living with my BF who is a non believer of Christ. I thought living with him would make him change his mind and see that it is the right thing to do. I have tried everything and he does not believe why we should rush marriage. Being a Christian, I feel guilty every day that goes by. I might have to just cut it off and take what I learned. I guess what they say is true ” why buy the cow if you are getting the milk for free.” The important thing is I learned and I will never do it again.

  7. Ray Fowler says:

    Chelle – Thanks for sharing your experience. As you are finding out, living with a non-Christian boyfriend rarely leads to marriage or to the boyfriend coming to Christ. More often, we end up in a dead-end situation that can cost us years of our lives. I would encourage you to take a step of faith and obedience by leaving this situation and committing to doing things God’s way in the future. Thankfully, God is loving and forgiving, and he never gives up on us.

  8. Lisa says:

    I have a problem with the living together issue. My ex-husband and I are the only one who choose to marry before we moved in together. All our friends who lived together and purchased their home. My brother and his wife lived together and its like everyone that lives together first is still together. I and a few friends who married first are all divorced so i just think I will live with the person first and get moved in. I love the Lord and I think that he knows our hearts.

  9. Ray Fowler says:

    Lisa – You are basing a very important decision on a small sample of friends and acquaintances. I would encourage you to read the Scriptures in the post above again carefully. It sounds like you want to please the Lord with your decisions, and we please God by trusting and obeying his word, not by doing things our own way. It is sometimes hard to trust God when your experience seems to say otherwise, but let me leave you with these wise words from Proverbs:

    “Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.” (Proverbs 3:5-6)

    All the best,
    Ray

  10. Jennifer says:

    I ran across this site in Googling the Billy Graham museum for my parents. I just wanted to comment on this thread:

    My boyfriend and I also lived together for a few years. I am a Christian, he was not. Like one of the comments before, I always had a guilty consious about living together. We got married and although we had a wonderful marriage, his salvation was always on my mind. Recently, at a new memebers class at our church, he accepted Christ. I am so happy that I now know that our 2-year old daughter has the love and support of TWO Christian parents!

    Although it turned out great for us, we are the exception rather than the rule I believe. I definitely wouldn’t suggest being “unequally yoked” to someone as it does cause unnecessary turmoil in a relationship.

  11. Lisa says:

    I think you can not base your comment on that your mate was unsaved and found the Lord. A lot of people who are saved and love the Lord live together and are happy. Many are still married today. sometimes people need to get their finances together and purchase a home etc. oor a job location in this economy. I don’t know why people think you can not live with someone and wait to be intimate until after the honeymoon. after dating somone for along time and then marrying only for it to fall apart I don’t think I will marry someone and then move in. I lost to much from that experience.

  12. Ray Fowler says:

    Jennifer – Thanks for sharing. I am glad to hear your husband accepted Christ. And I agree – the exception does not prove the rule. I know many Christian wives who are still praying for their husbands after many years.

  13. Ray Fowler says:

    Lisa – Let me respond to a number of your comments one by one. (I will put your comments in bold font and then respond in regular type.)

    “A lot of people who are saved and love the Lord live together and are happy.” – Many people who live together are happy together. But I have to question whether these are people who truly love the Lord. Jesus said, “If you love me, you will obey what I command.” (John 14:15) Of course we all sin, but we cannot say that we love God when we are deliberately disobeying his commands.

    “sometimes people need to get their finances together and purchase a home etc. oor a job location in this economy.” – Yes, but those are things that should be done before marriage or moving in together, not afterward or during.

    “I don’t know why people think you can not live with someone and wait to be intimate until after the honeymoon.” – I have shared my thoughts about this at the post: Living Together Without Sex

    “after dating somone for along time and then marrying only for it to fall apart I don’t think I will marry someone and then move in. I lost to much from that experience.” – I am sorry you had a bad experience with your first marriage. However, statistics show that choosing to live together first only hurts your chances for a successful marriage later. It seems tough enough to stay married in today’s culture without adding the extra stress of having lived together first.

  14. Christine says:

    From my own experiences I completely agree with not living together before marriage. In my personal case, I dated a guy and we both thought each other were Christians. After three months of dating, he proposed, everything was fine and dandy. However, soon outside influences created struggles in our relationship. And we soon agreed to move in together; where as before we said we would wait for marriage to move in and also keeping in good faith that we would also wait for marriage in regards to sex. I guess we thought that “moving in” would relieve the tensions of the outside world. However, things got really bad, so bad to the point of abuse. Even though we didn’t move in, and still have not had sex, the very thought of it has put our relationship on the rocks. Noticiably, our relationship has gotten way worse since the mention of moving in together. Personally I’ve learned that even thought of sin is bad as it is stated in the bible. Coming from someone who has always learnt the hard way, STICK TO THE RULES OF THE LORD!, His yoke is easy as it states in scripture, abstain from the very thought and appearance of evil.

  15. Ray Fowler says:

    Christine – Thanks for sharing. I pray God will guide you in your next steps as you seek to follow him.

  16. Christine says:

    Hi Ray,
    I agree with the no living together before marriage, but I was wondering what your thoughts were on sleepovers. You see my fiancee and I live quite a distance apart, and while we have decided to wait for marriage to live together; sometimes it’s easier to have a sleepover then spending the time and money driving back and forth. I’m kinda stuck on this one. Keeping in good faith that we are waiting for marriage for everything; do you have any suggestions on where Christians should draw the line on this one. I realize that this is a somewhat seemingly difficult and personal question, but I was wondering what your opinion was on this type of matter and or if you know of any scripture in relation to this.

  17. Ray Fowler says:

    Christine – Thanks for a great question. I would still discourage couples from doing sleepovers, for the same reasons I posted in the third part of this series: Living Together Without Sex. Sleepovers expose you to unnecessary temptation, can damage your Christian testimony, and continue to trivialize the sacredness of living together in marriage.

    When I used to visit my girlfriend at college and had to stay overnight (because of the distance involved), we always set it up that I slept in the dorm of one of the other guys on campus. This protected against the three T’s as stated above.

    I hope that helps, and all the best with your situation.

  18. Dave says:

    Ray,

    Thanks for the work you’ve done on this subject. I work with a gal who moved across the state to move in with her fiance. When I first met her and spoke with her, my first thought was “this gal could be a Christian.” Then I learned she was living with her boyfriend, and like you said in your post, it destroys testimony when unmarried couples are living together, so I just assumed she wasn’t a believer. After speaking more to her, I am pretty certain that she is a Christian, but obviously not following God’s plan.

    My question is how do I know if I am to bring up the subject with her and confront this sin? I’m not sure if it is a sitution where I am to pray that God will reveal truth to her through the Holy Spirit or is it my reponsibilty to show her the truth of the Word.

    Thanks.

  19. Ray Fowler says:

    Dave – Great question. First of all, start with prayer. You can never go wrong praying about a situation. Pray for God to reveal his truth to your friend, and pray for wisdom to know when and how to talk to her about it. You will usually need to have gained some level of friendship and trust with a person before you can approach them on such a sensitive topic.

    When the time is right, I find it best to start by asking questions, like: “Are you a Christian? How long? Are you growing as a Christian? Do you attend church anywhere? You have shared with me in the past that you live with your boyfriend – what do you think God thinks about that? Would you be willing to look at some verses from the Bible that talk about living together and God’s plan for marriage?”

    I hope that is helpful to you. Thank you for your concern for your friend, and I trust that God will give you the right words to say in his time.

  20. Alex says:

    The first verse that you refer to is actually Proverbs 14:12.

  21. Ray Fowler says:

    Thanks, Alex, I just corrected it. Funny, that post has been up eight months and you’re the first to catch it.

  22. Kristy says:

    Well my boyfriend and I are one of those “rare cases” that you talked about. We are BOTH Christians and we are living together but are not involved sexually. But before we moved in together we were having sex outside of marriage and continued awhile after moving in together, but have since stopped and asked God to forgive us. It has been an entire year now since we have refrained from it. But I have been thinking about the “living together” part alot lately, did a search on the subject and came across your blog. Here is our situation… A year ago we moved from PA to FL together with a friend of ours. For 4 years, all 3 of us were feeling strongly that it was His will for us to move to FL. Therefore after praying about it all that time we finally had enough money to move and so we did. Now we’ve been going to a new church that we found and I started questioning to myself… “What will they think about us living together before marriage?” That is why I have been troubled over it lately. I have yet to direct my issue to anyone at the church but plan to. In the meantime I ask you… Is it wrong for a Christian couple that has relocated to a new state, and doesn’t know anyone else there but ourselves – to live together? We solely moved down here out of faith and are currently drawing closer to God. We are both attending schools that we believe God lead us to and cannot afford to live separately in such an expensive state to live in. So the 3 of us share a house together and split the rent. And I want to mention that our roommate is also a male. So I am a young woman living with 2 men, one being my boyfriend. Is this wrong if we are trying to follow God’s will, going to church, tithing, etc. But are “living together” without sex. I have believed up to this point that there was nothing wrong with it because “you can’t hide” from God what you are doing and He knows that we are now being pure, and “sees” everything that we are doing on a daily basis. He also knows our hearts and knows that we are planning to be married after we both finish school. But you have brought up some very interesting points with the Scripture so could you offer us any advise?

    Thanks-Kristy

  23. Ray Fowler says:

    Hi Kristy,

    Thanks for sharing your situation. And congrats to you and your boyfriend for wanting to do things right and seeking God’s will.

    In answer to your question, I do not think it is good or wise for you and your boyfriend to be living in the same place, even with another roommate around. I have shared some of the reasons for this in the follow-up post in this series (What If We Already Lived Together Before Marriage?).

    I am a firm believer that when we seek to do the right thing, God will open up the way for us. I believe if you and your boyfriend commit to finding a way to live apart, God will show you what to do. I would suggest talking to your pastor about your situation, as there may be some people in the church who would be willing to help you find a better living situation.

    As far as planning to get married after school, please know that our best of plans often change, and until you both actually commit to each other in marriage, anything can happen. In the meantime, the best thing you both can do is seek to honor God in the way you live your lives now, and then trust God to lead you to his next steps.

    I wish you both all the best, and pray that God will give you the direction that you seek.

  24. Sharon Gamble says:

    Dear Kristy – We have been able to open our home six times in the past to young women from our church in situations just like yours. Absolutely check with the people in your church. We are still in touch with most of the women we had in our home and we were soooo blessed by them! May God lead you to someone who is willing to offer you a reasonable alternative.

  25. Mae says:

    I have been dating a Christian man for over a year now. I, myself, am not a Christian. I don’t want to be the one to divert him from his beliefs for I think they are very important.
    That said, my beliefs state that I am to live with a man before making the commitment of marriage. What would be the best solution here, short of breaking up?

  26. Ray Fowler says:

    Mae – Thank you for your question. I am glad that you wish to respect the beliefs of the man you are dating. That is very important. Of course, where you both have very different beliefs when it comes to living together, this poses a real problem.

    However, I would venture that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the man you are dating is a Christian, then his entire life is committed to God through Jesus Christ. Christ is the very center of his life. The two of you would be entering into a marriage where you could not share the most important thing in your husband’s life. Another major difficulty is that the Bible instructs a believer only to marry another believer. In other words, as things stand, you could not in fact marry him without compromising his beliefs.

    I hate to say it, but it sounds like the two of you have irreconcilable differences, and it would be wise to reconsider your relationship until something changes. I know, probably not the answer you wanted to hear! I am so sorry. Please take care and know that I will be praying for you.

    God bless,
    Ray

  27. Donna says:

    Won’t make this long.
    I am not a young person living with their boyfriend.
    I am 53 and he is 46.
    We met at church.
    We have been living together 2 years.

    I want to get married, as of November he said “It’s not out of the picture, just not right now”.

    I am out of work, no family or friends..I have one friend but if I live with her it would look like a “gay couple”. I don’t want that.

    I see me as stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    He considers us as “common law”, our state doesn’t recognize that.
    It is slowing killing me…it does stand between me and God.
    I don’t like it. But what do I do, where do I go. I’ve been praying and fasting and I don’t know what to do.

    I’m old, old tired, and seem to be getting depressed, where is God?

  28. Ray Fowler says:

    Donna – Thank you for sharing your story. My heart aches with you and for you. You say you met your live-in at church. I would suggest first that you both talk to your pastor about your situation. If your live-in won’t go, then you go talk to your pastor. If you are in a good, Bible-teaching church, he should be able to give you godly, biblical counsel.

    God is there, but he is under no obligation to bless our wrong decisions, and living together before marriage is a wrong decision. I only see two ways forward. Either you get married or you move apart, but you cannot go on living the way you are now.

    I know you are hesitant to move in with your other friend, but if she is willing that seems to me a much better situation than the one you are now in. Perhaps if you take that first step of obedience in faith by moving out, God will be ready to show you the next steps for your life.

    I pray that God will guide you in making good and right decisions going forward. Feel free to email me if you have any further questions that you would rather not post on the blog.

  29. Hollie Davis says:

    Great stuff here.I’m doing a paper on marriage vs. cohabitaion. I’m glad to have found this site and perspective.

  30. Ray Fowler says:

    Thanks, Hollie. All the best with your paper.

  31. BriBri says:

    I know this is an old post but I will still reply:

    Living together before marriage, people say, is a test drive to kind of get the feel for how things will be when or if they get married. Also, they might be in a financial hardship. However, there is no trust in God because if there was, you wouldn’t try to fix things on your own. That’s like saying: “I know God can change any situation, but let me just do this so I can feel better right now.” Exactly where is the trust? And people have sex before marriage, this is true, but acknowledge that it is indeed wrong. Learn to fully trust in God, not just halfway, and you will be blessed regardless. If anything at least be engaged, and even then, I would still say wait.. you never know what could happen between the engagement and the actual marriage. Save yourself some heartache and just obey God. It’s the least you can do.

  32. Ray Fowler says:

    BriBri – It may be an older post, but it still gets a lot of traffic, and it’s great to keep the conversation going. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  33. chi rose says:

    i am a christian a a beleiver i have gone to my fiance house so many times and he has touch my body but we did not have sex and he even kissed my lips is good or bad so that i will know on how to treat him
    my fiace is also a beleiver in church and we will be getting married in december

  34. Ray Fowler says:

    chi rose – Congratulations on your upcoming wedding in December. I am glad that you and your fiance are both Christian believers and go to church. I am also glad that you are seeking to honor God in your relationship.

    It is important as believers not only that you abstain from sex before marriage, but also that you avoid temptation and do not cause each other to stumble. This will mean different things for different people, but it certainly means that your fiance should not touch your body in a sexual way.

    I would recommend that you both talk to your pastor about your plans to marry and seek his guidance and counsel. Also, you could both read through the Scriptures in the post above and talk about what they mean for your relationship between now and the wedding.

    I wish you all the best, and thank you for commenting.

  35. Kristy says:

    Hello Again…
    I have a post above from back in Feb. A lot has happened since I posted and wanted to give an update.

    Here’s a bit of a recap…
    I was living with my boyfriend Peter and we had relocated to FL from PA because of a calling by God to do so. Because of expenses we were living together and continued after we relocated. We had every intension of getting married after we both finished at our separate schools we attend here in FL. We have been seeking God’s will for our lives and trying to draw closer to him as a couple, but didn’t think that God cared that we “lived together” because he knew what was in our hearts about “getting married” and we weren’t sinning sexually. After starting to go to a new church here in South Florida we started feeling that there were things in our lives that needed to be dealt with. And I started worrying about the church’s reaction to us living together. I did some research on the subject and came across this blog. After reading everything over I really felt we were in trouble and didn’t know what to do. So I posted about it. That’s when Ray responded to my post and said that we should try to find a way to “live separately”.

    I’ll admit it upset me a little and I thought to myself… How can we do that when we BOTH live off of Peter’s income and EVERYTHING is already in BOTH of our names, the lease, bank accounts, car registration, car payment, etc. It just seemed like that was not the solution for us. So we started praying about it and God revealed to us that He in fact did not want us to separate at this point. He started showing us signs that He wanted us to get married now and not wait any longer! We have been dating for 3 years and have known each other for 5 years so to get married at this point did not seem like we’d really be “rushing” it. Then I remembered that a couple months earlier I had asked myself about waiting to get marriage until after we graduated from school. I asked myself, if we still didn’t have the money to get married, how long could we be waiting just to have enough money to get married? So then just for a second I thought to myself, “we could go to the JP now and have the bigger wedding later like we planned in the first place.” But I just shrugged it off and never thought about it again until after everything else started happening. So we kept praying about it and asked God to help us make sure we were hearing right. And that is when different people started telling us that they thought we should get married without telling anybody anything. I was emailing the Pastor’s wife of the old church Peter grew up in and never mentioned anything about us “maybe getting married.” She emailed me and said exactly what I was already thinking about going to the JP now and having a bigger wedding later! We took this as the final sign we needed to know that God definitely wanted us to get married. Even our new Pastor agreed that God was telling us to get married. So on April 27th we had a small private wedding in our local park where we live and are very happy now. Peter was just so excited when I told him about it in the first place and he is so proud of that ring on his finger! :) It’s so cute.

    God is definitely moving in our lives in a BIG way! He is now leading us to get more involved with the ministry at our church and we are very excited about what He has in store for our lives.

    So my advice to everyone is to always seek out God’s will for your lives no matter what your situation is and He will let you know exactly what to do. Trust in the Lord and you will be Blessed!

    Thanks so much for being part of this great discovery in our lives and God Bless.

    Take care:
    Kristy :)

  36. Sharon Gamble says:

    Congratulations, Kristy! It was fun, as a regular reader of this blog, to hear how God led you to get married. May He bless you greatly as you two serve Him as a family together. :)

  37. Ray Fowler says:

    Kristy – Thank you for coming back and updating us on your story. It is a good reminder that sometimes — not always — God’s solution for two people living together before marriage is simply to get married. (Although I believe they should still move apart until they do get married.) Congratulations on your wedding, and all the best for a long and happy marriage centered on Christ. God is the best!

  38. Mary Beth says:

    My boyfriend and I have been dating for about 2 years, and right now he lives in Louisiana and I live in Michigan. We recently have talked about living together in about a year after I graduate. The apartments in LA are expensive and would be economically “smart” to split the cost of living with each other. We are both Christians, and abstain from having sex. However, I feel that it’s not right to live in the same house, because it would be like you are pretending to be married, only you are not. We do plan on getting married down the road, but with the distance separating us for what will be a year and half, I just really want to be with him all the time. And, if we do end up getting two separate apartments when I move there, we will be spending all of our time together. So, it only seems logical to get one place…but I know that’s not right…

    I’m so very confused, and I don’t know what to say to him when he asks me about it. If we live together for the right reasons, and don’t have sex, and all of our friends know the reasons behind it, then is it still bad? I don’t want to make any mistakes and keep God at the center of our relationship. Any advise about this would be extremely grateful. Thank you

  39. Ray Fowler says:

    Mary Beth – I would encourage you to stick to your guns and refuse to move in together before marriage. You seem to know in your heart that it’s not right, and I would advise you and your boyfriend to both make the commitment not to live together before marriage. I understand the financial reasoning (I hear it from young couples all the time), but you really need to follow God’s way first, and then trust God to work out the financial details.

    I also understand that you want to be together all the time, but that is what marriage is for. If you can’t wait to be together all the time, perhaps you should look at getting married sooner rather than later. But don’t make the mistake of trying to enjoy all the benefits of marriage without making the commitment of marriage first. If you and your boyfriend are going to get married someday, you need to lay a strong, moral foundation that will prepare you for a lifetime together. A shortcut is a shortcut, and it will only hurt you in the long run.

    I hope that helps! I wish you and your boyfriend all the best as you seek to follow God’s way in your lives.

  40. Mary Beth says:

    I really appreciate the reply. Maybe I should start lifting weights…so to speak… :)

  41. Ray Fowler says:

    Mary Beth – You’re welcome — all the best!

  42. Sonia says:

    Ray,
    I just came across your site and read a few postings. I’m in a similar situation like most on here. I’ve been living with my boyfriend, we are both of faith. He’s Catholic i’m Christian. We want to get married, we are in sexual sin. I never planned on it at first to move in together but it happend due to my family moving to a different state and me studying in college near home. One summer I had no where to go and he was my only source. My mother lived somewhat close, alittle far but was unstable(long story). Anyhow we have been living together for 2 or 3 yrs now. I have recently had a reawaking of guilt to living together. I know God does not want this and it tears me up inside but we can’t refrain because the temptation is great. We would gladly just get married now but theres another problem. He’s not a legal citizen and we have heard that marrying in the states could conflict with his chances of getting his papers. Nowdays they aren’t giving papers to anyone, not like before when people could do this. Our plans for the near future are for him to have his papers so we can make a life here in the states and or in his home country with the freedom of going back and forth.
    I was recently trying to find a priest or pastor that would marry us. However what I wanted was just the ceremony and not the liciense because that would be on our records. Can a priest or pasture just perform the rites of marriage and the nupital blessing without a liciense? Will God Bless this and count it as a blessing even though it’s not recognized by the state? We would eventually have a church/civil wedding in his home country . Please help. And if you know Priests that do this give me some contacts or links please.
    By the way him and I live like we are married. We’ve been together about 5 yrs, living together like 3. I’ve seen him in bad times and in good. Helped him get through major surgery, he’s helped me in my sickness too.. theres love there, I just wonder if marrying now is possible without all the conflicts.

  43. Ray Fowler says:

    Sonia – Thank you for writing and asking your question. The answer is no, a pastor or priest cannot perform the ceremony and give the wedding blessing without the actual marriage taking place. Marriage is a public commitment resulting in a legal relationship. Without the license it is no different than living together. If the only thing holding you up is your boyfriend’s legal status, I would check with an attorney on that. I was not aware that marrying a U.S. citizen could jeopardize a person’s potential citizenship. (In fact, I always thought it was a help!)

    I would also encourage you to talk to your pastor. The Bible says you should not marry someone outside of your faith. You say your boyfriend is Catholic and you are Christian. I guess I would ask, are you both trusting in Jesus Christ alone for salvation and seeking to follow him as Lord? If only one of you is following Christ, then you should not be getting married.

    I know this is all very difficult as you have invested so much of your lives in each other and have now lived together for these past years as well. You have shared that you know this is wrong. I would encourage you to start making right decisions right away, no matter how tough those decisions are. Trust God to help you in those decisions, and I beleive he will show you the next steps.

    I wish you all the best, and feel free to email me if you have questions you would rather not post on a public site. God bless!

  44. Cass says:

    Ray,
    I would appreciate some sound advice on my situation.
    I have been with my fiancee for almost 3 years and we have a child together. We are completely committed to each other- however financial struggles has made it impossible for us to wed at this time. He is trying to pay down massive amounts of debt his ex wife had incurred while my house etc is paid for. I also have other children from a previous marriage that I am raising. If we married now, I would have no medical coverage for any of our children, be assuming his debts, and im sure you are aware how bad the economy is right now. I am barely keeping my head above water as it is. He has made several attempts to find a job with health insurance, but they do not pay as well as the job he has now that is helping pay off his debts. I am asking the Lord to please help me find a way to be married in his eyes without jeopardizing the health and home of my entire family. Do you have any suggestions?

  45. Ray Fowler says:

    Cass – Thanks for writing and sharing your situation. It sounds like you are a believer who wants to do what is right. I don’t know the solutions to your financial difficulties, but I do know that it is not right for you and your fiance to be living together before marriage, especially when there are children in the house whom you are teaching by example.

    So you need to bite the bullet and start there. If you are not married, you should not be living together. If you and your fiance will both start there, and commit to that principle, and commit to acting on it no matter the cost, then I believe God will show you the next step.

    What will that next step be? I don’t know. It could be you get married. It could be your fiance moves in with a friend until you get married. It could be this is not the right person for you to marry. (I know, that one hurts, but until you get married, that one is always a possibility.) What I do know is that you cannot ask God to bless your current situation, but if you take a step of faith and obedience, you can trust God to bless that. I would also encourage you to talk to your pastor, and see what counsel he can offer.

    I hope that helps, and I pray that your fiance will be open to following God’s way along with you. God bless, and all the best.

  46. Ebony-Ivory Union says:

    I’m a South African. I am/was a believer. I’m engaged to a loving man who loves the Lord but when we met 4 years ago he was not a Christian. We have a 2 year old child together. We are both non-Caucasian. I’m black and he is of “mixed-blood.” We live together and are soon to be married. My family is not in support of our relationship or marriage but we are going ahead with it anyway.

    If you don’t mind may I please share the events as to how I arrived at the place where I am today. This is my story: I was a happy, on-fire intecessor, Bible-carrying, devil-stomping, tongue-speaking believer 9 years ago. I prayed for people and the Lord came through for them. I was happy in the ministry but I wanted companionship. Being the intercessor that I was, I prayed and fasted and remained pure because I wanted the Lord to bless me with His “own handpicked man” for me. I prayed a very specific prayer, I even went as far as describing what he looked like and his personality. Not long after that I met a young man at church and we went on a few dates. We had so much in common, no that’s not close to describing it. He was my soulmate. He was who I would be if I were a man. He was such a beautiful person, inside and out. I finished his sentences for him, our connection superceded the norm. It was the ultimate relationship. The Lord did not go half-way for me, or so I thought.

    Anyway, out of the blue, he told me he’s never had a relatioship like the one we had. He’s never had anybody understand him like the way I did, it actually “freaked” him out. He said he expected a series of pre-marital counselling with me, but there would be nothing to work on, seeing that the relationship was “way too perfect”. I tried to tell him that I had been praying for years for such a man as he and I told him what I prayed about. He just couldn’t shake the feeling. Eventually he dropped me after 3 months. It felt like the ultimate betrayal of my life.

    How could I ever believe God again? The very “answer” to my prayer rejected me. His friends tried to convice me that he had other issues that were stressing him at the time, he just didn’t want to burden me with them. I was angry with God for a long time after that. I dropped my church activities as I felt as if I had missed God completely. I eventually became disillusioned with God and couldn’t hide my disappointment. I carried on with life and after 5 years of celibacy, I met another guy (my fiance)who was interested in knowing all about me. Over the years whenever a guy would try to come onto me, I would start preaching and telling them about the Lord even though I hadn’t set foot at church for years, just to get them to leave me alone. And it worked all the time except for him. He just couldn’t get enough of it. We met on my way home from work and we would walk together and I would share the word of God with him. We went on a few dates but I still didn’t think much of him. He then challenged me to take him to church on sunday since he hadn’t been to church since he was a little boy. He got born-again that sunday when I took him to church and I was happy for him. We then started to go steady and although he was a new Christian, I guess by just seeing the way I related to God, his faith didn’t develop much.

    He proposed when our son was born and we then made a decision to move in together, in view that we’ll get married in a few month’s time and my mother almost disowned me. In South Africa, black people can be Chrisitian and still observe cultural traditions. One of those traditions is the dowry payment from the guy’s family to the girl’s family, if there is to be any marriage happening. In my opinion I think it’s very hypocrititcal. I thought when gentiles accept Chritst they are to leave behind all that’s associated with ancestoral worship, gods and cultural customs that do not align with the word of God. So I’m in a black skin, with different views from my family and in a relationship with a guy who’s family background is one that’s not “cultured”. I can’t expect him to pay the dowry if that’s not part of his culture/family custom. Even if he does want to pay the dowry, I will not allow it because I don’t believe in the practice. Please understand, in South Africa, black people don’t just pop the question and announce their engagement. I know that Jacob paid a dowry for Rachel by working 7 years. It was not in monetary form. If the dowry was any other sign of appreciation, then maybe I would reconsider. In anycase, in biblical times, the dowry was not meant to co-join the two families ancestors, which is the essence of this practice in South Africa. I just don’t want to carry the generational curses of divorce and infidelity into my marriage. If that means my mother’s “blessing” would pass me over, then so be it. She is divorced, her 2 sisters are divorced, her own mother is divorved and her grandmother is divorved. How many generations is that???

    Yes I may have defiled myself by moving in with a man who’s not my husband. I get the sermon of “the woman at the well” all the time at family gatherings. Because of this dowry issue, my fiance and I almost broke up. But we went for councelling outside the church and read books relating to relationships and marriage. That helped a lot and it even drew us much closer the Lord. I know this sounds very contradictory but a lot of things in life are. Like the notion of Christians calling Passover Easter, naming it after a pagan goddess Ishtah. If I choose to go ahead and get married without dowry, I could be disowned by my family. I love my fiance, he loves me and I believe what we have could never be quantified into monetary value. Unfortunately, the church in South Africa is silent about the dowry issue. That is why there is a high number of unmarried single mothers and people living in sin in the church. Those who are “brave” ultimately stop attending church and marry without dowry, but that also comes with a high price to pay. Being shunned by your own family, being seen as a “lesser” wife by your in-laws, being looked down upon by society. What I did find is that those couples who live together are still happily in love than those who chose to “do the right thing”. I don’t know how that works. A few years back my mother would update me about good Christian girls who married good Christian guys and how blessed their children would be because they are born in wedlock. She has stopped singing that tune because some of those couples are getting divorced citing irreconcilable differences, one of the “good” Christian guys were found to have made another girl pregnant just before he got married… and all these people are in the church. At least I have the decency not to dishonour the house of God. And I get the flack for what – choosing not “to do things the right way” but having a relationship that’s working.

    In a months time my “fiance” and I will be getting married by law and I don’t expect a large turn out at the wedding. I don’t expect my family to show up and I’ve made peace with it. At the end I’m marrying the man I love, the man who loves me for who I am. Do I feel guilty about my living arrangement? NOT AT ALL! It’s a bit hard to explain how I finally arrived to this peaceful state. Am I still angry with God? NOT AT ALL.

    I don’t think I deserve the title CHRISTIAN seeing that I break a few pointers, I would not call them laws or rules. I do read the bible, I do tithe (with money or whatever else I may have, be it food, clothing, time if I don’t have cash. Matthew 25:35-36), I believe in the law of recieving: Luke 6:38, Malachi 3:8, I do believe in Jesus, and I believe He is the Son of the living God, I observe Passover (I prefer not to call it Easter and glorify a pagan godess) and celebrate the birth of Jesus (just not on the 25th December, which was a date originally set for a pagan festival). Call me what you think, maybe I’m very decieved I don’t know. But this is my journey, I found that my life and health are much better since I’ve made peace with myself about my living arrangement. A few people already think we are an examplary Christian couple, although I do tell them the truth and they get the shock of their lives. I believe I will have a solid, intimate and healthy marriage because from the on-set, there were no illusions or delusions about what makes a relationship work.

  47. Ray Fowler says:

    Ebony-Ivory Union – Thank you for sharing your story. It sounds like you have walked a very difficult path, and I am sorry for the pain in your past and the present conflict in your family. I can’t really comment on the cultural issues as they are so different from my experience. I would encourage you to seek God first and to agree with what he says in his word. He gave it to us for a reason. I wish you all the best, and pray that God will help you and your new husband to grow closer to each other as you each grow closer to him. God bless, Ray.

  48. michelle says:

    hi..im michelle 26 years of age. i am now living in with my boyfriend for almost a 3years now. we meet at the office then after 2 years we decided to live in. I am so much loss now, i feel that he is taking me for granted and he always get drunk after office hours. he says he just drink with a friend then he will come home for 12midnight. i am at the house 6pm then waiting fir him, i tried to exoalin to him what i really feel averynight he came home drunk. but still he continue what he wants. i dont see any problem with our relationship its just that he is too much alcoholic. i dont know what to do, its almost 5years now beng with him. im stuck!! i do love him but i cannot accept until now his attitude but the truth i cannot leave him still after all those probles, fights we had..please do help me..

  49. Ray Fowler says:

    Michelle – I am so sorry to hear of your situation. You are in a bad relationship, and I would encourage you to get out. First of all, you should not be living together. And secondly, you should not marry someone with a drinking problem. I know five years is a lot of time invested, but the longer you stay in this relationship, you will lose even more years in sadness. I encourage you to talk to your family or church for support, and then get out of this relationship immediately.

  50. Phillip Powers says:

    So I have a question about my situation. My fiance and I have been living together for about 4 years now. When we first got together we did not have the best relationship with the lord. we were sexually active and ended up having are daughter. she is 3 now and both of us have came closer with the lord and have been getting alot of judgement for having a kid and living together and not being married yet. and its taking a toll on my fiance. I dont want to live apart for my daughters. I dont think she would understand it if we didnt live in the same house. we are getting married in november. and we have been through alot. I am in the military and was deployed for 2 years of are relationship. but we are now stronger in each other and the lord now than we ever have been. but I am tired of people judging us and want to know what to say to my fiance to help her out. I would appriciate any insite. thank you
    SGT Powers

  51. Ray Fowler says:

    Phillip – I am glad you and your fiance are growing in the Lord and are moving toward marriage. But you should still not be living together. If you are going to get married, and you already have a child, I would encourage you to get married now rather than later. Don’t wait until November. Go to a Justice of the Peace now (this week?!?!), get married, and make it right. You can always have a big ceremony later affirming the lifetime decision you and your wife have made together in marriage.

  52. michelle says:

    ray..thank you so much for the advice..i know it is not good to marry a man with a drinking problem,but until now i do believe that he will change for me. But i also know that i could never accept his drinking problem im so much lost now..we always have fight every night because he always come home late..we are a believer but not totally a church goer..plss do pray for me!! thank you again..

  53. Jennifer Page says:

    The scriptures that are in reference here were written A LONG TIME ago. Then people were married very young. Those who went without sexual activity were of the highest priest. Another thing, a marriage between two people does not need to be recognized in society to be understood by God. For He has already married us before creation.

  54. Ray Fowler says:

    Jennifer – Thank you for stopping by and taking the time to comment. A couple things to think about:

    1) Yes, the Scriptures were written a long time ago, but that does not make them invalid for today. (For example, I’m assuming “Do not murder” still applies!)

    2) Yes, people tended to marry younger back then. But not all did. Isaac was forty years old when he married Rebekah. (Genesis 25:20) And God’s command to abstain sexually until marriage applied to all people, not just the priests.

    3) I’m not sure what you mean by “married us before creation.” I also do not agree that a marriage does not need to be recognized in society. The public recognition is part of what makes it a marriage and not just a living arrangement.

    Thanks again for your comments! Ray

  55. Jennifer Page says:

    Dear Ray,
    In reference to…
    1) I never meant to imply that the scriptures were invalid for today. What I was simply trying to say, was that I believe that is the sheperds way of saying not to act on lust but to wait and be patient for love. And yes, do not murder still applies…
    2) Issac lived to be 180 years old, but I am sure you knew that. That is how much times have changed. I am very sorry if you feel so offended by my words but I am only stating my own opinion. It would be easier back then to obstain from sexual tendencies. Everything in our world today has sex exploited all over it. The media is relentless. I too believe there is a stronger relationship with God through abstinence. But my friend it is much harder today to escape.
    3) “Married us before creation” Our Lord created everything. He created us in His own image. With that being stated, let me ask you this… Have you ever planned anything? I know you have, we all do it. We plan things. Sometimes things dont go as planned but thats life. He created Adam first and then thought of a perfect match for him and then created Eve. I beleive that God has a plan for all of us. And sometimes people are with thier soulmate and bond by marriage through thier hearts…where Jesus Lives. The judgement of others in society doesnt matter to me. Only God can judge me.

    And no, Thank You Ray for your prompt response.

  56. Ray Fowler says:

    Jennifer – Thanks for explaining your thoughts more fully. I wasn’t offended, just wanted to push back a little on some of the things I thought you were saying. I agree abstinence is harder today, but God’s Word still reserves the sexual relationship for marriage.

  57. jessica says:

    I am so thankful to find this blog today. I think this is the wise counsel I’ve been praying for this morning. I am a Christian, but in college, and since then as a young adult, have strayed from God’s will for my life. I’ve rationalized that the relationships I’ve had and the premarital sex from which I’ve not abstained are ok for various reasons. I know this isn’t true, and I know this is sinful behavior. For the last year I’ve been dating an awesome guy. Well awesome except for one really important factor: he’s not a Christian. I never thought I’d allow myself to get involved with someone who is not a Believer. This has plagued me from the time we first started dating, and I’ve prayed for so long that he’ll find Christ and be the spiritual leader in our relationship. This hasn’t happened, and I don’t know that it will anytime soon. I absolutely hate the idea of breaking up with him, but more than that, I want to follow God’s will for my life. I’m having the hardest time with this, and desperately need encouragement. I know that I couldn’t in good conscience marry someone who will not be the spiritual leader of our marriage, and the more serious I’ve allowed this relationship to get, the more I feel helpless. I feel terrible that I’ve essentially “led him on” but I’m also fully aware that I can’t “make” him believe anything or pursue a relationship with Christ. I’m at a loss, and my spirit is really restless right now. I keep praying for peace and guidance, but I think my being stubborn is standing in the way of what I pray for. I would love your advice and appreciate your prayers.

    Thank you,
    Jessica

  58. Ray Fowler says:

    Jessica – I commend you for desiring to follow God’s will even when it is difficult. There is freedom in obeying God’s commands, plus it puts us in a place where God can reveal his perfect will for us. It sounds like you realize that you cannot in good faith continue this relationship with your boyfriend. Whether you were leading him on before or not, to continue in the relationship now would be leading him on. I pray that God will help you as you make some tough decisions in the days ahead.

  59. Elizabeth says:

    I have a question about biblical judgement/confronting sin within the body of Christ. A couple in our sunday school class are and have been living together for two years now and noone has said anything. She says she is saved and has been part of our class for 5 years. Why is this being ignored? Should leadership not gently, lovingly confront sin right in front of our eyes? Also, as a friend… how do you know if you should lovingly confront? And how do you know when to back away from fellowhip with a friend who continues to live in sin and they are seemingly fine with it?

  60. Kristy says:

    Elizabeth…
    I am so glad that you asked this question. I have been dealing with this very question for quite some time now. I have several family and friends that are purposely sinning and claiming that because they are “Christians” that it is ok because no one is perfect and God’s grace will cover their sins. This past week I tried to lovely rebuke 2 of them and pointed out scriptures to them. They both got really defensive and they both accused me of being judgmental. Even through the scripture back in my face about “do not judge or be judged.” I have found that we have become so tolerant to peoples sins that it has become nearly impossible to even say anything without them getting really mad and defensive. Therefore as a result it gets us no where to have even said anything. I love these people very much and don’t want any of them going to hell. I feel like if I just sit back and say nothing that I will be partially accountable because I knew what they were doing a sin but said nothing. I can’t wait to hear Ray’s response to this subject because I need some guidance on this as well.

  61. Ray Fowler says:

    Kristy and Elizabeth – It is always difficult confronting someone with sin in their life, but as brothers and sisters in Christ we are commanded to help each other in this area. When I was just out of college I remember having to confront a Christian brother who was living with his girlfriend. Although he didn’t respond to it well at the time, years later he thanked me for having the courage to talk to him about it.

    We should always approach the person gently, in love, confessing our own sin and need for grace. It is best if you have a prior relationship with the person. Still, people can and often do take offense even when we do our best to approach them with humility and love. Church leadership should also step in when someone is living in obvious sin.

    Here are some good Scriptures to keep in mind before approaching another believer about their sin:

    When someone sins against you: “If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that `every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.” (Matthew 18:15-17)

    “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, `I repent,’ forgive him.” (Luke 17:3-4)

    “Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.” (Galatians 6:1-2)

    “My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.” (James 5:19-20)

    Thanks for visiting, and all the best!

  62. Bryan says:

    Me and my girlfriend are currently engaged and have been together since freshman year of high school. Now we are sophomores in college and have still refrained from sleeping together or living together. I have my own apartment and she lives in the dorms. We are planning on getting married in June of 2011… But we are getting anxious now and wish we could just be together. Our parents and family think it is wrong to live together, and a part of me does not want to; because it is against Gods will and what I have been brought up to do and believe in. A part of us says that living together would save us alot of time and money and the convenience of being together more often since we see each other anyways, or never have the time to see each other at all because of school…Not to mention it would make us alot less stressed if we were to see each other more often and not have to be away from each other all the time. What do I do?

  63. Bryan says:

    Back to the last comment, we have considered getting married in the courthouse just to make it right with our families and everything and then still have the wedding and reception on the day in June of 2011… But would this make that day less important for us and make it not as memorable and special?? Please help!

  64. Ray Fowler says:

    Bryan – First of all, let me commend you and your fiancee for choosing to wait until marriage before living or sleeping together. Your marriage will be the stronger for it, and even more important, you are obeying God’s commands in this area.

    As far as whether you should get married now in the courthouse or wait until June 2011, there is no right answer. What do you believe God is telling you to do? I hope you have gotten or are getting premarital counseling. If not, let me encourage you to talk with your pastor about it. This would be a great question to explore together with a mature Christian believer who knows you and your fiancee well.

  65. Cheryl says:

    Hi Ray.
    Firstly, I want to say that I totally agree with your Scriptures on living together.
    I currently have a friend who calls himself a Christian who has a Fiance who is not a Christian, and I haven’t long found out that they are currently looking for a house to move in together. I know that they are going to move in before marriage because they are not planning to get married anytime soon and are planning on moving in together within the next few months. And also I am terribly concerned that they are still involved in sexual sin.
    I really feel as if I need to take my friend to one side and tell him about God’s views on living together and sexual sin, and that it is infact a sin to live together before marriage. I just really cannot bare the fact that this could easily get in the way of His relationship with The Lord. But I don’t know how to say it or even what to say, I was just wondering if you had any ideas on how I could handle this situation?
    I am also worried if he is going to think that my views are wrong seeing as I am only 16 and have only been a Christian for 9 months where as, he has been one for a couple of years and is also older than me. But I have prayed about it and I really feel as if God wants me to speak to him, and I really do not want to disobey His commands.
    Thank you so much for the scriptures on living together they have really blessed me and helped me to learn more about this kind of sin.
    Regards,
    Cheryl.

  66. Ray Fowler says:

    Cheryl – Thank you so much for sharing. You are right to be concerned about your friend and to want to talk to him about his upcoming decision. Even if he weren’t a Christian, I would want to share with him the information from the first post in this series (Statistics on Living Together) just out of concern for his future marriage.

    However, if he calls himself a Christian, I would also want to share with him the second and third posts in the series (Scriptures on Living Together and Living Together Without Sex). As Christians we are supposed to help each other avoid sin and walk closely with God.

    Make sure you approach him gently and with an attitude of humility and Christian love. I know you are a new Christian and you are younger than he is, but perhaps you could use this series of blog posts as a point of discussion. You may also want to find an older male Christian who knows him well enough to approach him about it.

    Thank you once again for sharing, and thank you for caring enough about your friend to want to reach out and help him avoid a wrong decision in his life. I pray that God will give you the wisdom and strength to do the right thing in this situation.

  67. jenny says:

    I just asked my BF to move out today. After leaving an abusive marriage I had lost my relationship with the Lord. The “Christian” man I married beat me in judgment with Gods word, was selfish and pretty much broke me.
    Shortly after leaving my husband I met my BF and he moved in a few months later. I was still far from being healed or reconciled with God, but wanted to be. In this last year I’ve struggled deeply with living together. I failed to follow through a few months ago when I tried to make the decision I made today.
    I am sitting here on my computer looking, searching for some support because I am walking in obedience to Gods word by making this choice. I couldn’t heal being in sexual sin. I am trusting him now for everything because I dont even make enough money to support myself. I prayed for hours last night & today for the stength to do this. The worst part of this is I am nolonger a part of a community of Christians, have not friends. I am literally alone tonight. I know without a doubt He is with me & will rebuild my life. Thank you for your article and the posts you’ve all shared. God has better for us and we should wait until marriage and test the relationship praying diligently that this is the right mate for us. Don’t assume because a seems right.

  68. Ray Fowler says:

    Jenny – I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. You made a difficult decision today, and I pray that God will give you the strength to stand by it. I know you must feel terribly alone tonight, but please know that God loves you and he is always present. I will be praying for you tonight, and I know there are many other readers of this blog who will be praying for you too.

  69. Patrice says:

    As I sit here and read all of these posting I am almost to tears. My ex-boyfriend and I decided to move in together over a year ago to raise our daughter together. He promised marriage but always had an excuse of reasons not to marry. I knew that living together was not the Godly thing to do. My parents lived together for 25 years never married and hated every moment of it. They only stayed with each other for my sibling and I and they split once my youngest sister was in her senior year of high.

    I feared this for myself so after a year of “shacking” and his staying out late never coming home, I asked him to move out. I am feeling lost, alone and very saddened, but encouraged by God. I have a college degree but just recently got laid off and have a 10 month old baby. Living together before marriage ruined our friendship and relationship, worst mistake ever.

  70. Ray Fowler says:

    Patrice – Thank you for sharing your story. A lot of people visit this page who are considering living together before marriage, and I trust your story will help them to think through their decision very carefully. I am sorry for your experience, but it looks like you have learned much from it. And I am glad you are finding your encouragement in God.

  71. Natosha says:

    Ok this is not about living together but I’m hoping you can answer my question? I made a big mistake giving my ex boyfriend oral sex over a year ago, the last time I did I told him I couldn’t do it again, I felt bad about it and that it was displeasing to God. I wasn’t sure if it was really considered sex but I knew I didn’t feel good about it. I remember being told if you feel guilty about something you shouldn’t be doing it. I asked God to forgive me and I do believe God has forgiven me. I am currently seeing a wonderful man who is also a Christian like me. He also has had sex in the past and has asked God to forive him, but lastnight he said he doesn’t know if God has forgave him. I told him God has forgiven him if he asked for forgiveness and truly meant it. Well my questions really are… Was that right for me to say that to him? And this may sound crazy but I’m not even sure if I’m a virgin after giving my ex oral in the past. I hate being unsure if I’m a virgin or not, even though I don’t believe I am because of what I did. Me and my boyfriend do not have sex and are waiting till marriage. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

  72. Ray Fowler says:

    Natosha – Thank you for taking the time to share on the blog. It sounds like you have made some mistakes in the past, but have confessed them to God and are now seeking to follow God’s way. And it sounds like your fiance is doing the same. If you both have truly placed your faith in Jesus Christ for your salvation trusting in his death for you on the cross, you can be assured that you are forgiven. 1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

    As far as whether or not you are a virgin after your experience with your ex-boyfriend, some people get into all sorts of debates over virginity and “technical virginity” etc. “Technically” a virgin is someone who has not had sexual intercourse (dictionary definition). But God forbids any type of sexual activity with a person who is not your spouse, not just sexual intercourse. And we all have sinned sexually with our thoughts and minds as well.

    So rather than worry about whether or not you are still a virgin after your sexual experience, I would advise you to focus more on God’s forgiveness for the past and staying pure in the present. That’s a much more healthy focus.

    All the best,
    Ray

  73. Malaree says:

    My fiance and I recently purchased a home together and have been living there the last month. His mother is a very devout Christian and tells him repeatedly that our house will not be blessed until we are married. She’s actually refused to come visit us, and tells my future step-daughter that Satan makes her says things until she’s baptised (she’s 15 and chooses not to be stating that Jesus in her heart is enough now, she’s not ready). At 9 I was pulled out of Sunday School and baptised infront of the church congregation without permission from my parents, without them knowing, without proper guidance and acceptance on my part. Since then I’ve felt uncomfortable and betrayed but church, not by God but by man in church therefore I will not attend. I worship in my way in my home, my future mother in law obviously does not agree. Since my fiance and I made the step to merge our lives together I’ve had nothing but belittlement from her. I know most Christians believe that we’re living in sin, but to me we aren’t. In Biblical times men and women made an agreement to one another to live as husband and wife. There were no ceremonies or formalalities they had to go through to proclaim their marriage. Why so today do we have to go through such hoops to prove to those around us that we aren’t living in sin and that this piece of paper proves it? Why can’t our word to one another and our promise to God suffice as it did when the words in the Bible were being lived? I know my post will anger some, and that’s ok but I’m not out to do that. I’m out to find answers, or what’s best to the answers I can get. When I read the verses posted in the beginning I interpret them differently than the next who reads it. I’m an analytical person, I need to understand before basing conclusions.

    Thank you for any help or guidance!

  74. Ray Fowler says:

    Malaree – I don’t think anyone is going to get angry at you over your post, but I would like to make a few suggestions that I trust will be helpful to you.

    First of all concerning your mother-in-law, I don’t know the whole story, but it sounds like she is saying some pretty extreme things. I would encourage you to love her through it all and test what she says against the word of God. If you’re not sure what the Bible says about certain issues, then you could talk to a pastor.

    Which brings me to the second thing. I am sorry you had a bad experience with the church when you were younger. But not attending any church is not the right answer. That would be like having a bad experience at one restaurant and never eating out again. Of course we would never do that, and church is so much more important than eating out at a restaurant. I would encourage you to find a good church that teaches the Bible and preaches Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Jesus founded the church, Jesus died for the church, Jesus loves the church; the church is the body of Christ, and if we belong to Jesus, we need to be part of his church.

    And then thirdly as far as marriage, even in Biblical times there were various customs and public vows made before a couple was considered married. Marriage is not a private agreement between two people, but a public promise made before the community. Just saying you’re married does not make it so. You and your fiance might feel like you’re married, you might like to think that you’re married, but until you have made that publicly recognized vow before the community, you are simply not married. And God’s word is very clear that you should not be living together as husband and wife until you truly are married.

    I encourage you to think through what I have said here and also to read carefully through the verses listed at the top of this post asking God to speak his truth to you. And I believe he will.

    God bless,
    Ray

  75. Marie says:

    Hi,

    I am searching for guidance right now because my boyfriend and I are living together, but this arrangement improves my quality of life vastly. A little background, I have a 2 year old daughter and 2 years ago her father died leaving me to be a single mother, my parents were getting evicted so I also had to move house. I then became a studying, working and SINGLE mother as you can imagine it was extremely difficult to do my motherly duties as well as work and study. Bereavement, bouts of depression, loneliness also reared their ugly heads. So when eventually I committed to a relationship with my partner, it became extremely evident that I was struggling, he subsequently moved in literally to help me with me daughter and just help me cope (which I really appreciate because I didn’t think I could spread myself thinner). We are both christians and want to be married but he still has a year left of university and between us we don’t earn enough to arrange a marriage. Not to mention he has nowhere else to stay. I know ideally we shouldn’t be living togethern but I am at odds at what I should do, if he moves out I will be back to running myself ragged, if he stays I will have my conscience to deal with.

    Please pray for us!

  76. Juana says:

    Hello Marie,

    I am so sorry about the circumstances in your life. Your life has not been ideal. But living together makes your life even more confusing, less ideal. Make the decision that moves you closer to what you know is right. Just get married. Planning a wedding is expensive. Just getting married is not. Your life hasn’t been ideal anyway. Make your life right with God. Get married. And God will bless your relationship. And then your life will finally be more ideal than it was before. And your conscience will be clear.

  77. Ray Fowler says:

    Juana – Thank you for sharing your thoughts with Marie.

    Marie – I am sorry you have gone through such difficult times. My concern for you is this. You believe that living together improves your quality of life. And on the outside of things it probably looks that way. But anytime we stray from God’s commandments, we are always settling for less than God’s best for us.

    Proverbs 3:5-6 says, “Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight.” God’s way is always best. You clearly do not have a peace about your present situation, so I would encourage you to either stop living together or to get married. And as Juana points out above, getting married really doesn’t cost that much.

    I wish you all the best, but even more I pray God’s best for you. – Ray

  78. JJ says:

    I’m a faithful Christian who’s never had sex with anyone but his wife of 15 years (and only once married), so I’m not looking for justification of my behaviors.

    I am, however, extremely curious (as a father and role model) why Scripture never says anything explicit about what constitutes “sexual immorality.”

    Every passage quoted on this page (and many similar web pages) begs the question. Certainly we should avoid immorality. And yes, there are good logical reasons not to cohabitate prior to marriage. But I don’t see Scripture clarifying for us exactly what constitutes “immoral” sexual behavior and what does not.

    Can you help me see more clearly what Scripture says about this? What makes an on-going relationship between two mature adults immoral or sinful if they go to bed before the wedding night?

  79. Ray Fowler says:

    JJ – I think Scripture is fairly clear on this. We are to flee from sexual immorality (1 Corinthians 6:18) and pursue purity (2 Timothy 2:22). Sexual immorality in the Bible includes such things as adultery, pre-marital sex, homosexuality, incest, prostitution, rape, and lust. Therefore any sexual activity I engage in with a person who is not my wife is sexually immoral. The key is to pursue purity and to avoid anything that would cause me even to lust after another person (Matthew 5:28).

  80. sarah says:

    The bible doesn’t say not to live together before marriage. it says not to have sex before marriage. And I think it’s extremely possible to live together and not have sex. I already read your piece about the temptations of it. I disagree with your reason that you shouldn’t do it cuz it hurts your image. I thought christians weren’t supposed to care about what people think of them just what god does. Therefore, if you aren’t having sex there should be nothing wrong with it since the bible doesn’t say not to live together. Unless if course you’re only supposed to care what other christians think of you, Which really doesn’t make sense to me. That seems a little hypocritical.

  81. sarah says:

    I figured I should give my reasons why I think this. For one I have a friend who’s been living with her bf for awhile now. They have not had sex because she wants to wait until marriage. She’s not even a Christian. So if non believers can do it I’m pretty sure it’s possible.

    On another note here’s my story. Y’all are saying you shouldn’t live together cuz you should trust that if you think you know them and love them, that you should get along well enough when you marry. I was dating this guy and he was wonderful. We dated for a very long time and I thought he was the man I was made to marry. Eventually we moved in together. And I found out where he would go at nights. He cheated on me several times I later found out, but I only caught him on the 8th girl when I was living with him. And I wanted to marry this man. I believe that you should know if you can live with someone

    before you marry them, because if you marry them and that happens…what if I was to ind that out
    when we married? Divorce is a sin. It says that plain. So tell me. Would god have rather me lived with him before that and find out before I made a mistake like that (when it doesn’t say it in the bible not to live together) or have me blindly marry him and force me to commit the sin of divorce or be miserable the rest of my life?

  82. Ray Fowler says:

    Sarah – Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your story. I am glad you read through the related post on Living Together Without Sex even if you do not agree with its conclusions.

    In answer to your first comment, I would say there is a big difference between one’s image and one’s testimony. If a Christian is just trying to look good to others, that is not the right motivation. (And if they are trying to look good when they are not, then that is hypocritical.)

    When Christians choose to live together before marriage, they send a message to others that living together before marriage is good, right and acceptable. They may be one of the rare few who abstain until marriage, but most people who live together are going to get involved sexually. Also, the statistics do not bear well for those who live together before marriage.

    As far as your live-in who cheated on you, I am sorry for the pain that caused you and so glad you found out before you married him. However, I still do not believe living together before marriage is the answer. The Bible gives grounds for divorce following adultery, but nowhere does it give grounds for sexual relations before marriage. (i.e. Divorce because of adultery is not sin, but sex before marriage is.)

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