What Is Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

We talked about this in Sunday’s sermon from the gospel of Mark. Here is an excerpt from the message:

Jesus said, “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.” (Mark 3:29) Here we come to the unforgivable sin – blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. If all other blasphemies can be forgiven, this must be exceptionally bad to be singled out as an eternal sin that is beyond forgiveness.

What exactly is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? It is only mentioned here and in the parallel accounts of the gospels, so we need to get the context from this particular event. Mark tells us that Jesus said this because they were saying, “He has an evil spirit.” (Mark 3:30)

And so it would appear that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is attributing the work of the Holy Spirit in Jesus’ life to Satan. It is the blasphemous belief that Jesus was not empowered by God through the Holy Spirit, but that he was in fact a servant of darkness and received his power from Satan. Such a hardening of the heart towards God’s work in Christ through the Holy Spirit that you would call it the work of Satan is a blasphemy that will not be forgiven. The person who does so is guilty of an eternal sin.

Sometimes people worry that they may have committed the unforgivable sin. But I would say if you are worried about it, then you haven’t done it. If you had truly blasphemed the Holy Spirit, your heart would be so completely hardened against God that you wouldn’t be worrying about whether God could forgive you.

What I would be more concerned about are forgivable sins. You know what’s worse than committing the unforgivable sin? Committing forgivable sins but never turning to Jesus Christ for forgiveness. That’s really sad.

Related posts:
    • Can an Atheist Blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
    • What’s Worse Than Committing the Unforgivable Sin?


  1. Mitch says:

    Thank you for this explanation.I have worried over this for years now, because in anger I have said some really terrible things.But after reading your explanation and several others on the Internet tonight I now can rest assured that I have never commited the unforgivable sin.God the Father of Jesus Christ is good and ALL powerful.I some times worry that I have lost His love but I know that this is impossible for He tells us so.

  2. Ray Fowler says:

    Hi Mitch – I am glad this was helpful to you. It is amazing how forgiving God is. We may have said all sorts of terrible things in the past, we may even have cursed God and blasphemed the name of Jesus, and yet God still stands ready to forgive us in Christ. He is truly full of mercy and loving-kindness.

  3. LIVE4HIM says:

    Wow, thanks a lot for sharing this! I feel your understanding is right on to gods truths on this topic!

  4. Ray Fowler says:

    LIVE4HIM – Thanks, and all the best.

  5. Ralf says:


    I’d hate to say it, but I think blasphemy of the holy spirit is a 1-time sin of the tongue… Why I believe this to be the case?…because years ago I flew off the handle at God, blaspheming Him, the Son & the Spirit. The result? – I no longer believe…I want to, but I just can’t. I know the Gospel/bible is true, but I just can’t accept it (I know that doesn’t make sense & sounds irrational, but what can I say). My heart is hardened beyond repair I’m afraid.

    It is God Himself that grants us a mesure of faith; & it is by grace we have been saved, through FAITH – & if I no longer believe/have faith [even though I want to, but just can’t] I can only conclude that the Spirit is no longer striving with me. Needless to say, I’m not looking forward to death (hell).

  6. Ralf says:

    For example, every time I pray, I just think I’m talking to myself, or to the wall at best (unbelief). I want to believe that there is a God who hears me, & logically I know there is, because there’s no way that evolution is even plausible, let alone possible. But that’s a head knowledge of God; not faith that is coming from the heart.

    Before anyone says “well, if you lost your faith that means you never had saving faith to begin with” – let me assure you that I indeed WAS saved, & I had the fruits to prove it. Furthermore, I had [many] answers to prayers – God does not even listen to you if you’re not saved.

    However, after cursing the Spirit, calling it evil & screaming for it to get out [of me] & never come back, any faith I had (a gift of God) is gone. I no longer have the capacity to believe God, or believe I can be forgiven.

    I think this is 1 of the things “the sin unto death” is [spiritual and physical death). You have full knowledge of the existance of God, & are aware of the consequences of not repenting – but at the same time, it all seems like foolishness, & you are unable to repent.

    If you play around with God, & sin willfully [as I have], thinking that you can repent at any time – don’t be surprised if God harden’s your heart…

  7. Ralf says:

    And yes, I have prayed (and continue to pray) for repentance & faith – but the doubts & unbelief continues. I want to believe that if you are wiling & want to repent, that God would step in & give some kind of assurance that He hears me. When I backslid in the past & came back to the Lord I always KNEW that everything was alright; He did something every time to make it clear to me. However, now, none of this is happening; I’m just plagued with depression & fear. Faith is not a feeling, but being comforted by the Holy Spirit is… Being led or empowered by the Spirit is also a feeling – and I don’t have any of that. Again, nothing but fear and depression. Only now do I realize how short life is. Think about it, I mean how would you feel if you knew you were going to hell, & there was nothing that could be done about it?… This is what it feels like to not have the Hand of God upon your life & heart.

    I truly wish I was wrong about my theory about what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, but my life experience with regard to this is what it is.

  8. Ray Fowler says:

    Ralf – Thank you for sharing so openly about your situation. I have taken some time to think through a response. Your story certainly gives one pause and makes us think seriously about this sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. That is a good thing. Let me share my thoughts for what they are worth about your situation.

    Do I believe that a person can blaspheme the Holy Spirit? Yes. Do I believe that a person who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit is permanently hardened against God and will not be forgiven? Yes. Do I believe that you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit? No. I believe in a fit of rage you said some terrible things to and about God, terrible sinful things, but things that can be forgiven through the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross for you.

    Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them.” (Mark 3:28) The only exception he made was for the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. You said some terrible things about God and the Holy Spirit, even calling the Holy Spirit evil, but you did not attribute the work of the Holy Spirit in Jesus’ life to Satan like the Pharisees did. And so you did not blaspheme the Spirit the way Jesus talked about it.

    The other reason I believe you have not committed the unforgivable sin is that you are still bothered by it and seeking God. I do not believe a person whose heart has been hardened beyond forgiveness would be seeking God the way you are.

    Rather, I believe Satan (the great accuser) is using your past sin to hold you back spiritually. I pray that God will open your eyes to the truth of his love for you in Christ and his all-sufficient grace so that you may know and receive God’s willing forgiveness for your sins.

    God bless you, brother. Keep on praying for repentance and faith. Ask God to help you in your unbelief. Hold on to the words of Christ who said: “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.” (John 6:37)

  9. Ralf says:

    Ray, thank you for your response.

    I agree with you, except for 1 thing – in this fit of rage (or whatever iyt was), I did attribute the works of God to satan – I remember screaming at the top of my lungs: “the resurrection was done in the power of the devil, not you God – You’re a joke!” “I HATE you, get OUT – I denounce you!” I went on to say [still screaming]: “I invite the devil into my life, I serve the devil, & am a child of the devil”. For this, I don’t know if there is forgiveness, but I hope so… I could have stopped at any point, and in fact, I had a gentle voice inside my head, saying: “stop, stop stop” – but the more I heard that voice, the more I went on & the more enraged I became. Only after I have calmed down, did I stop & think: “oh my, what have I done…” That day has been haunting me ever since. I don’t know what came over me that day, all I know is that I regret it & take it back.

    I want to repent & believe, but given my present state I don’t think God will allow it.

    It doesn’t help that the same week this happened I received a vision (weather it was from God or not I don’t know). But I was in church, praying & seeking Him – when all of sudden I found myself standing before a blinding light [I was very afraid!], & all of a sudden I was set on fire.

  10. Ray Fowler says:

    Ralf – Hang in there, keep seeking God, make sure you are part of a good church and Christian fellowship group, and I believe you will find yourself back on track with God again. Blessings, Ray

  11. Jay says:

    Hi, all. You’re not alone there. I’ve felt horrible in my mind, that I could have done it, and not known about it. But I’m convinced now, that it is NOT something you can do accidentally, without knowing about it. It’s not an accidental slip of the tongue, or some kind of magic words, or some random thought that appears in your mind.

    It’s a condition that one gradually gets into. One never feels any remorse or concern about it, if one truly had done it. It is a very advanced state of spiritual rejection. It cannot happen at the snap of your fingers. And you’re obviously concerned about it right there, which alone shows you are nowhere near that sin.

  12. Ray Fowler says:

    Jay – Thanks for sharing your testimony about this.

  13. Michelle says:

    1. I’m often worried. It’s just sometimes there are random blasphemies thought or random false things about Bible in my mind and sometimes after it went off to far, I said “STOP!”
    and these things really make me fear that God may not forgive me. I want to believe that God has forgive me but it’s just… i don’t know… like I’m not really convinced?
    I DON’T want God to take His Holy Spirit away from me!!
    2. I just REALLY want to live FOR GOD and live a good Christian live. But I live as a teen and yes I think i’ve commited quite many sins everyday.

  14. Ray Fowler says:

    Michelle – It sounds like these thoughts in your mind are not active thoughts, that is thoughts that you actually believe, but rather passing thoughts that you reject. In this case, they are more temptation and confusion from Satan, and I would not worry about them so much. Whenever these thoughts pass through you rmind, just give them to God, and tell God that you reject these thoughts and choose him.

    And as far as sinning every day, welcome to the club! 🙂 We all sin every day, although of course that does not excuse the sin. So when we sin, we need to confess it to God as sin, make a conscious choice to turn away from it (repentance), receive God’s forgiveness, and move on. And then we need to make sure that we are doing those things that will help us grow in our Christian walk – daily prayer, Bible reading, Christian fellowship, and asking the Holy Spirit to change us from the inside out.

    I hope that helps! God bless you, and know that I prayed for you today.

  15. Michelle says:

    Ray, I’m so worried that I’ve blasphemed the Holy Spirit now. Because I was listening to a Christian Radio. And then the priest start to speak with the Language of the Holy Spirit. Then, suddenly there’s a thought that really blaspheme the Holy Spirit saying ‘devil language’. Now I’m really afraid. I’m afraid I’ve committed the unforgivable sin. Then I said to myself, no it’s the language of Holy Spirit, the holy language which is gift from the Holy Spirit. Will Jesus forgive me for this? I’m afraid seriously. I really DON’T WANT to attribute the holy work of the Holy Spirit to the devil. I still pray to God and read the bible, listening to Christian Radio, and ask the Holy Spirit to fulfill me. Will God forgive me? I usually bit my tongue when those blasphemies thought came, so it won’t come out to my tongue. Seriously worried.

  16. Ray Fowler says:

    Michelle – Once again, these seem more like passing thoughts that you reject rather than active thoughts that you believe. If you were writing to me and telling me that you believed Jesus Christ was possessed by a demon and did his miracles by the power of Satan, then I would be concerned that you had committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Instead, I believe Satan is throwing these tempting thoughts at you to confuse you.

    When thoughts like those come, stand strong in Christ and simply say you reject those thoughts as evil “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” (James 4:7)

  17. Joe says:

    Thanks so much. I read these and felt better, because the devil is like in my head telling me to do stupid
    little things, or I will
    lose something dear to me.
    want him to leave me alone and I don’t quite understand James 4:7
    . I also have a question. Does
    committing the sin mean you go to hell?, no
    questions asked or what?
    back or

  18. Annabelle says:

    I myself thought that I committed the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I was hearing a voice in my head to curse the Holy Spirit about three years ago. At first, I can’t understand it, but as days go by, it became louder and louder in my head. I was very depressed one day, and I was alone in my room when I uttered the words ” I hope the HOly Spirit did not exist.” After that, I was very, very afraid. I kept it to myself, and I knew I am doomed to go to hell. I did’nt seek help from my family or from the church, because I was afraid they can’t understand me. I became paranoid of dying. But I continued attending Sunday services with my family , hoping that God will reveal to me that He can still forgive me.

    I was in that awful situation for more than 3 years. Last year, I attended a retreat in ou church, and GOd did a miracle. During the first day , I wrote in a small piece of paper and prayed that God would send someone to tell me that God still loves me. When the pastor laid his hands on me, I began to spoke in tongues. In the third day, a fellow churchmate who didn’t know about my problem approached me and told me God’s message for me- that HE never left me during those times, and that HE loves me very, very much. Thank God I was freed from that bondage!

  19. Ray Fowler says:

    Joe – I am glad this article was helpful to you. I would be glad to email you and help you with any other questions you might have.

    Annabelle – Thank you for sharing your story. God is so good. There is forgiveness for everyone who comes to God through faith in his Son Jesus Christ.

  20. Jay says:

    I believe it is NOT a one-time thing…and it cannot happen spontaneously. It’s not some kind of magic words that do it, or a random thought. It’s a gradual state one enters. And one WILLFULLY does it. It cannot happen accidentally, or without one knowing it.

  21. Ray Fowler says:

    Jay – Interesting thoughts. Are there certain Scriptures you are thinking of in particular to support your view?

  22. Julie says:

    I too have been plagued at times that I’ve comitted this unpardonable offense. Once when I was a young child, my father had mentioned this and very sudden thoughts entered into my mind that I had to banish. And then about 6 or 7 years ago I read that it was attributing Jesus’s work to Satan and a few months later when I was actually doing bible study the very thoughts entered my mind wonder if it was and a great fear came over me. I really didn’t believe it but by actually thinking it, is it the same? I quickly asked God for forgiveness and eventually got over it but just this week also during Bible study the same thoughts came to me when Peter and John were healing. And the same fear came over me. I really don’t believe this by why do the thoughts pop up like that? I would like to believe that it’s an actual evil heart that would really believe in something like that. All my life I had never dreamed thinking something like that and then when I really start to intently study the Bible, I have thoughts that scare me at times. I push them away though almost immediately. I would love some insight.

  23. Julie says:

    Also, I really didn’t believe it when the thought came over me but sometimes when you’re out in the world and people come at you from many different beliefs, it does make the mind go in overdrive, doubts. etc, but I’ve always loved God all my life. (I’m in my forties) and accepted Jesus at a very young age. I’ve backslidden at times but the past 7 years have found a wonderful, more personal relationship with God. That’s why these awful thoughts hurt so much when I’ve had them. And I deep down I know God knows my heart but I still hate that I’ve had such unwanted thoughts pop into my head at times.

  24. Jay says:

    Many sources…do you believe it’s a one-time thing, Ray, or accidental?

  25. Ray Fowler says:

    Julie – Unwanted thoughts can be troubling but are not sin if we reject the thoughts when they come. You clearly do not accept or believe these thoughts. In fact, it sounds like you are horrified by them. The fact that you are seeking God and rejecting these thoughts tells me that you have not blasphemed the Spirit. Talk to God about how troubling these thoughts are to you and ask him to help take them away. In the meantime, keep seeking God and enjoying the relationship you have with him through Christ.

  26. Ray Fowler says:

    Jay – I don’t think it can be accidental. I think of it more as a culmination of disbelief rather than a one-time act.

  27. Jay says:

    Right, something like that sounds like it could be OCD.

  28. Julie says:

    Thanks Ray for your comments. I really don’t know if it’s my mind or Satan and his attempts to get at me when I’m really trying to study. But it’s hard at times to get back on focus. But the one thing it does let you know is that there’s nothing more important than God’s love and the saving power of Jesus. If you feel like you’ve lost that, the rest of the world is nothing.

  29. kamau says:

    I have been having one of those terrible thoughts on the spirit of God.I do not mean it because I was one time saved but grew back into sin.At one time I mentioned that If you could call the spirit of God A DOG YOU COULD NEVER HAVE FORGIVENESS. From then one this terrible things have been disturbing my head since sep 2006 and causing anxiety in me.i always think i have commited this sin.I am afraid to die.I have read mary kathryn’s baxters book on hell and o.m.g makes me nervous.

  30. Ray Fowler says:

    Kamau – The most important thing you need to do is make sure that you are trusting Jesus Christ alone for your salvation. You can find a good explanation of who Jesus is and how he saves us here: Two Ways to Live. Also, I would not read anything more by Mary Kathryn Baxter. Please read the Bible instead. If you’re not sure where to start, I would suggest the gospel of Mark.

  31. Sarah says:

    I am saved by Jesus Christ and I’ve been raised in a Christian family. I was at a bible study one day and we were talking about blasphemy. And a bad thought entered my mind. I know it wasnt me thinking it though. Satan sent me the thought to speak something terrible against The Holy Spirit. I immediately stopped myself, rejected the thought, and prayed to God, asking Him to forgive me and help me to stop myself from these thoughts. I was horrified. And just as I prayed, the thought came right back. Oh btw I just recently accepted Jesus Christ into my heart, so maybe that’s why Satan is tempting me, because I’m still “new”? And how can I stop satan from sending me these thoughts? I hope that you can answer my question. I’d really appreciate it. Thank you and God Bless You Sir..

  32. Ray Fowler says:

    Sarah – We can’t control the thoughts that pop into our head, but we can control what we do with them. As Billy Graham once said, “You can’t keep the birds from flying over your head, but you can keep them from building a nest in your hair.”

    So when a thought that horrifies you pops into your head, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. If the proper response to an evil thought is horror, and you are horrified by the thought, then that is a good thing!

    Congratulations on your recent decision for Christ. I pray that God will strengthen and encourage you in your faith daily.

  33. Kiele says:

    okay well i think that i have spoken in other tounges, and the other night i felt for sure but after i took communion and told my friend i finally accepted that i had spoken in tounges and been filled with the holy ghost i felt like i commited blasphemy? would that be considered it or is that just saten playing mind tricks?

  34. Ray Fowler says:

    Kiele – I don’t know whether you spoke in tongues or not, but blasphemy would be something different (see article above).

    As far as speaking in tongues, some Christians believe this gift is still for today while others believe it was just while the early church was being established. If you’re not sure about speaking in tongues, I would encourage you to continue to study the Scriptures on this issue and spend more time praying in your native language. Whatever we do, we need to be able to do it in faith and with a clear conscience. Romans 14:3 says, “But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.”

  35. Shana says:

    Hello Ray. I am afraid that I may have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit 🙁 I have always wondered if people speaking in tongues were really speaking in tongues or if they were just saying random things to pretend like they were speaking in tongues. Well, a few months ago I witnessed someone who I believe is saved speaking in tongues while praying for a sick loved one, and I again wondered if she was really speaking in tongues from the Holy Spirit, or if she was somehow deceived by the devil. I hadn’t thought about that anymore until today because I have recently been trying to grow in my relationship with Christ and reading/studying my Bible and other commentaries on the internet to help me understand the Bible, and I have been praying that God won’t let me be deceived into believing something false. I was reading some descriptions of hell and became afraid that I may be going there if I committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which I really hope I haven’t and did not mean to because I love the Lord but sometimes I don’t know how to tell what is from the Lord and what is not. I have also been having a difficult time understanding the Trinity because it’s not mentioned in the Bible and I know we should not worship anyone before God, so I’m afraid I don’t know if I should worship the Father, Son and Holy Spirit or just the Father. I’m so confused and scared of going against His word. Please help! Thanks!

  36. Shana says:

    In addition, since I started trying to truly walk with the Lord and study my Bible and pray and turn from the worldly things, I have been having thoughts about what if this isn’t true and another religion is true instead. I know that is a lie and the devil is trying to deceive me into not following Jesus, but why can’t I stop these thoughts from entering my head. Also, while I was reading the testimonies on what hell is like (some Christians say that Jesus showed it to them so they could tell everyone hell is a real place), I kept wondering about all those people in other religions who truly believe that their religion is right. Just as I reject all other religions as deceptions from the devil, so to do the people in those other religions. What if I was them, then I’d believe the false religion just as strongly as I now believe Jesus. That is what has me scared and wondering if another religion may be right instead and that I am going to hell because I don’t believe it. I have been praying that God help me get rid of these thoughts and just trust in Him. What should I do? Maybe I should stop reading about hell. Please help!!!

  37. Steven says:

    Hello, I have been so scared that I blasphemed the holy spirit. I honestly don’t even know exactly what it is. I am a new believer in Christ and has finally had felt forgiven for my past. The other day I was going to look at bibles because I didn’t have one. I spent Sooooo long looking between all the different bible versions, and study bibles, and reference bibles. I had talked to some people on what bible to get and basically someone told me to stay away from the NIV because there were verses taken out of it and things like that. Well later i was talking to my friend about the different versions and telling him what people had told me about the NIV. And jokingly i said something like “that’s the devil bible version” or “thats the devils bible”. I wasn’t even thinking about what I was saying. I was completely joking just because people were talking about it like it was so bad. Immediately i felt horrible for saying that because i don’t/didn’t believe it. I said sorry out loud, to god and haven’t stopped praying about it and asking for forgiveness. I’m just so scared. I know that no bible version is the devils i was just making a stupid joke. I’ve felt horrible ever since. I’ve been so scared that I’ve blasphemed the holy spirit… My mind has been going crazy ever since and I’ve been so scared that i screwed up by joking about that. My words have been haunting me. I don’t know what to do. I still believe completely that God exists and Jesus died for our sins. I am just so scared that I have ruined everything. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me and give me guidance. Thank you so much.

  38. Ray Fowler says:

    Steven – Don’t worry, what you describe is not what the Bible calls blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Basically it was a dumb joke that you regret saying, but if you are trusting Christ, then God has already forgiven you for that. You can’t blaspheme the Holy Spirit on accident. A person has to willingly choose to attribute the work of the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ to the work of the devil. And when a person does that, they are not going to be worrying about whether or not they are saved, because they do not believe Jesus is from God anyways. They believe Jesus is empowered by Satan and therefore evil and should be avoided. I hope that helps, and I pray you will continue to grow in your new faith in Christ.

  39. Stephen says:

    Good morning Ray!!

    Here is my situation—many years ago (late 80’s) I fell into a very serious depression over getting fired from a job for misconduct. I was in a depression for several months then one day I completely felt free and I truly believe it was the power of the Holy Spirit. Fast forward 20 years later ( year 2008–after a major sow wild-oats period) I lost some money on an investment and had an overpowering spiritual experience. I subsequently went back to the church. But I backslid again and not only did I continue to sow wild oats but I also started reading books on Buddhism and promoting them (really out of vanity to show people how “smart” I was.)while being critical of the church. Several weeks ago I had a panic attack–thinking that I had blasphemed the Holy Ghost through my actions. I am more detemined than ever to get right with God and truly want in my heart to do so. Many people, when they hear my story believe I’m being way too hard on myself–but I feel very badly. I truly have love in my heart and want to live the rest of my days in communion with God. Am I guilty of apostasy and blasphemy?? These actions were really done (I believe) in a state where I fell out of awareness—something I vow never to ever do again!!

  40. Ray Fowler says:

    Stephen – It sounds like you walked away from the Lord for a while and away from the truth but now are seeking God once again. God is a God of grace and forgiveness, and he is a God of second chances. Just look at Jonah and Peter. Jonah ran away from the Lord and Peter denied Christ, but God never gave up on them and I don’t believe he has given up on you either. Continue to trust Christ and seek God first, and you will be fine. All the best! Ray

  41. Joe says:

    If you just say those attributes that the Pharisees did, but do not mean them, have you still blasphemed?

  42. Joe says:

    **I always worry I commit the sin by thoughts that pop up in my head, but I reject them

  43. Ray Fowler says:

    Joe – I believe you would have to mean those words to truly blaspheme the Holy Spirit. But it is still wrong to say them and you should ask God’s forgiveness through Jesus.

  44. William says:

    I wanted some thoughts on my slip of the tongue and would like to know if it’s considered blasphemy. Me and my wife were having a heated debate about eating at Hooters and she said, “Would God go there?” and I said, ‘He might.” I’m not sure what I meant, but it was more of a snap at her than anything. I know it’s not like some of the other posts on here, but the second it came out my mouth I got this deep sense of uh-oh. What did I just do? I’d appreciate some clarity either way.

  45. Ray Fowler says:

    William – We all sin in many ways and a slip of the tongue is not the same as blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. It is still sin that needs to be confessed and forgiven, but blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the settled conviction that Jesus’ power came from Satan rather than God.

  46. Linda says:

    Hey! I’m going through the same thing! It’s been three months for me so far! It’s only thoughts, I’m going crazy!!! I’m so close to giving up. I’m confused too! My uncle prayed for me very hard the first time I did it. The next day he prayed and prayed and prayed to give me an answer. He felt prompted to look on the bible answer man’s website and it just so happened that the question of the day was about this sin. My uncle hadn’t been on that website for two years! About a month ago I went to church and the holy spirit spoke to him about me and my sister! A girl (who spoke in tongues) told me that God told her that he’s with me, a woman prayed for us and felt the holy spirit. My sister (who’s went through the same thing) experiences the holy spirit. She prayed for me, asked God to give her something to tell me, he told her to tell me “My beloved daughter, don’t worry.” Oh, I can also say that my uncle also went through the same thing a long time ago. I’ve seen prayers be answered for him. As for me, I barely became a Christian 3 months ago and I feel exactly like Ralf, though I have no idea what it means to have the holy spirit. :/

  47. David. says:

    A benevolent God that is incapable of forgiving our tiny blasphemies, bit of an unlikely story.Personally I believe in God, I just think us humanists and atheists are morally superior to Christians. Simply because we have chosen to do what is right because of what we feel ourselves, not because of some imaginary bogeyman in the sky and his threats of terrible consequences.

  48. Ray Fowler says:

    David – It sounds like you disbelieve in a different God than I believe in.

  49. Cierra says:

    I have been in so much pain for the past few days. I read something on the unforgivable sin and ever since then I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it. I kept reading these things that said that if I am truly concerned that I commited this sin then that means that I haven’t done it.
    I know how wonderful God is amd I love him with all of my heart but sometimes when things get stuck in my mind I can’t get them out of my mind. Today I broke down and I was crying and begging God to foegive me and telling the devil to leave me alone, but I feel like my thoughts have ruined my chances for forgiveness. I was talking to God, while I was in the car and asking for forgiveness and it started raining really hard and hailing, as soon as that thought came into my mind the fisrt thing I thought was “that’s the devil trying to scare me” I didn’t mean to think that. I didn’t mean to thing that the Devil causes the rain which is something that God created and right after I started crying harder because I didn’t mean to think that. And When I was talking to God I was telling him how amazing he is and everytime I would say “God you are Amazing” evil blasphemous thoughts would pop into my head. Ive been trying to reassure my self that only someone who’s heart is hardend could commit this sin, but it’s hard. Sometimes the thoughts pop up and I don’t mean for them to. I honestly know in my heart that God is everything and can save anyone from anything. But the more these uncontrollable thought come into my mind the more I want to cry and the more I want God to forgive me. ANd when I do that, i start to doubt how much I really love Jesus. i know I love Jesus. I wouldn’t ever want to be a place that was without him, and I don’t want to live my life knowing that he wont forgive me. all I want to do is cry and know matter how much I try to reassure myself, I can’t. My heart isn’t hardend and I want to be with God in Heaven one day, but I just cant see how he could forgive me. I need help. I’m confused and I just want some explaination. I really want GOd to forgive me. It was a complete accident me thinking all of those things. I honestly didn’t mean to. I know I love Jesus and people are telling me that all of those thoughts are just the Devil trying to trick me, but I always believed that I could control my thoughts.I didn’t mean to think those things about the rain. If Iwouldn’t never known about the unforgivable sin, I wouldn’t be thinking about it. I’m so scared and all Iwant to do is die. Iwant God to forgive me I really do. But every time I ask for forgiveness I start to question myself. I’m terrified. I want to live in Heaven when I die, with my family. I love GOd so much, and I do care. I didn’t mean to. I know God sees the inside of my heart, but what if the inside of my heart is really not good. I want it to be, I just don’t know. Please help me. BE honest with me. Where do I stand with GOd. Is it too late. Sorry for the long message.

  50. Cierra says:

    Just to add… I do completely reject the thoughts, and have cried hard ever since they came up. But also when my grandmother asked me what was wrong, I explained to her the thought, and then was afraid because I had said it. I don’t believe the thoughts, I was just explaining to my grandmother what it was that popped into my head, so she could understand why I was so afraid. Did I commit this sin? I really do love God and I believe in Jesus and the Holy Spirit. i have always believed in God. I have strayed, but I would never want to commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. It’s not in my heart to do so, and the thought of it terrifies me. Please tell me Where I stand with God.

  51. Sean says:

    9:25 pm I have the same problem. I have blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Spirit, God, Jesus and their holy works. I spoke to MANY people about my problem. I keep having random thoughts and it scares the living day lights out of me.I’m just a teen trying to have it easy, but yeah, ever since i knew about the unpardonable sin. Anyway you really didn’t commit the unpardonable sin because you don’t have the intention in trying to commit it. I think that if you wanted to, you would have to be a christian/convert and THEN start to hate God or anyone or everyone in the Holy Trinity. Since you would hate him (even though you obviously don’t), it would cause hardness of heart. When that person blasphemes the holy spirit and really means it and hates them or him so much, they can NEVER return because they have fallen away and thus committed the unpardonable sin. You have not done that because you are not hardened of heart. Shoot, im not hardened of heart. At least i don’t think so and hope not.

    9:32pm I NEED help too.

    9:37pm Did I commit the unpardonable sin? PLEASE ANSWER!

    9:51pm Sorry if im typing too many messages but, did i have ANY blashemy in my paragraph? if i did then pardon me.

  52. Ray Fowler says:

    Cierra and Sean – Thank you for sharing your concerns here at the blog. I hope you will find the post above and the previous comments helpful. I also encourage you to talk with your pastors.

  53. Vladislav. says:

    Hello. I am from Bulgarq. First of all I want to apollogaise if I have some erros. I have the same problems like Ralf. Before a few monts ago I imagine in my mynd how I blasphem against the Holy Spirit. But I will never do such thing I will do it ohly If I do not believe in God (I do not know how to write in english this word). Sins then I was very scared and I talk wiht many pepople – friends and even with one pastor. They said thath I do now commit this sin. But sins than the firs moment of scare a feel cold and fallen from the faith. Yes I do believe that there is God , I cry when I watch the ” Passion of the Crist ” but in the other time I am cold. Yes I read the Bible , alsow read in internet about God , but I feel like this is in my mind , not in my heart. I pray God and I told Him in the prayer that I would never do such sin (because there are a sins that I would do but this one I would never do). Pless tal me what to do , beause I do not know what to do?

  54. Hannah says:

    I need help when was little I screamed I hate you to God. But I just don’t remember if i said anything else and when my dad told me about blaspheme about a month ago I have been so scared that I did blaspeme against the holy spirit. In so scared I’m going to hell. My dad told me that blaspheme is a continuous process of blasphemes. I read on a website that if you are scared that that you have commuted blasphemies that you haven’t cause when you do your heart is hardens against god and you wouldn’t be worried about God forgiving me. Tell me what you think.

  55. Alice says:

    Hi, I am a strong believer in Christ, which is why I am scared that I have blasphemed the Holy Spirit. I got “saved” at the age of 4 or 5. Which in my opinion, I was too young to understand. I would say I really got saved at around 11 or 12 years old. I started to read the Bible thoroughly for the first time ever. That’s when I first read about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. A bad thought had entered my head against the Spirit. I knew in my heart it must have not really counted. I prayed for forgiveness and just kinda let it go. Now I am 15 and have gone deeper into the Bible. I read again in the Bible about this type of blasphemy. A horrible thought entered my head. It wasn’t cursing him, just imagining the Spirit doing something horrible. This thought was supposed to be “funny.” I didn’t think it was all that funny after I thought it. I didn’t want to think it really. But now that I look back, maybe I did. I hope that made some sense. I prayed about it, but this horrible thought keeps entering my mind. I hate these thoughts. I don’t want them. I believe what the Bible says, and according to the Bible, does this mean I will go to hell? I’m now starting to doubt my own faith even when I came to Jesus when I was 12 or so. I mean, was it real? I don’t believe a Christian can commit this sin. Isn’t it once saved always saved? I mean, unless you leave him? I’m just horribly scared. I love Jesus though. Before I did this horrible, sickening thing, I believed that God was telling me to go out and be a missionary for him. I am willing to die for His name if it must be. I believe everything that the Bible says, which is why this sin of mine scares me so much. I have done lots of internet search on this, and I’m still not completely convinced I am okay because I haven’t found Bible evidence. Please pray for me. I need advice and I need someone to talk to about this. The thought of eternal hell and never seeing God is mind numbing. Thank you for reading.

  56. Lily says:

    Hello, I am 12 years old and come from a family who believes in God. I learned of the idea of accepting Jesus as your savior last year in a christian school that my parents signed me up for. My parents never told me anything about trusting Him personally before and the first time our teacher said you must ask him to forgive you your sins I immediately asked him to at home. I told him I was sorry and I really was and that I wanted to have Him as my very own savior, because I did.
    I wasn’t sure if I “did it right” or if he even heard me or not. I asked him repeatedly, over and over, still not sure if I was saved because I didn’t feel forgiven or anything, I still felt guilty of my sins. I cried many times I can’t remember when it was, but I at some point I just forgot about it I guess.
    I am worried I am not saved right now and unsure about myself.
    I also worry for my family.
    I told my dad about accepting Christ and being forgiven and he said believing in Jesus IS being forgiven. What do you think?

  57. Erik says:


    As Paul states in Romans 10:9, “…that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” If you have done that, then you are forgiven. I struggled with doubting my salvation for years until I finally accepted that God had forgiven me and saved me. I learned it is about faith and not feelings, because if it was based on our feelings, then we would be responsible for our own salvation and Jesus would not have had to die for us. Of course He did pay for our sins and ” All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.” John 6:37. So if you have gone to Jesus and truly believed in your heart and have confessed that He is God’s only perfect Son who died for your sins, then you are saved. God’s Word, not mine. Take John 3:16 for example. “For God so loved Lilly, that He gave His only begotten Son, that if Lily believes in Him she should not perish but have everlasting life” As I mentioned about John 6:37, if you keep going to God, He will not turn you away. Ever!!!! If you fall down spiritually, get up and go back to God and confess whatever sin you committed and you will be forgiven if you truly repent (turn away) of the sin/sins. If you keep committing the same sins, keep confessing them to God, and ask Him to help you stop committing them. I have struggled with various sins for years and I am at last seeing results because I have consistently gone back to God and asked from the bottom of my heart for His help. I have told Him, that I, Erik cannot change myself. He has to change me. That is what God is looking for, reliance upon Him. He loves you and is not willing that any (you Lily) should perish. 2 Peter 3:9. Keep seeking Him. Do not stop. I have prayed for you.

  58. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit you did not do because 1 Timothy 1:13 SAYS, Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.

  59. Carol Dennis says:

    Here’s the crux of the matter: Since Jesus came to ‘save’ sinners, he would never turn one away who was sincere. Firstly, he was addressing the hypocritical attitudes of his detractors and not the average person on the street. These religious ‘leaders’ were trying to destroy his witness because they were jealous and because they feared him. Finally, I believe that the statement he made was equally powerful. He was saying, in essence: You call yourselves believers but you are really changelings or apostates. Many in the church do not believe that once one becomes a believer they can lose their salvation. This is true but it is not true that once a believer one can never cross over to unbelief. Well known bible experts do believe that this can does and will happen. God would never leave us but we can leave God. These men were leveling the most insulting and damaging critique against Jesus witness that they could come up with. He in turn nailed them to the wall. He called a spade a spade. “You represent all those who call themselves believers but in reality have become God’s enemies.”

  60. Luca says:

    This whole unforgivable thing really scares me. I searched a lot about it on the internet and almost everyone said the same thing.. some said this sin cant be commited anymore since Jesus is no longer on earth.. i dont know. It really scares me. Sometimes some thoughts just pop in our heads as you said and its not our fault. Its not like we really mean to offend Jesus or the Holy Spirit. Still its not a great feeling.
    I wonder.. what if someone says that blasphemy, willfully, and then read the bible and regrets?
    What if someone really thinkst that Jesus was possesed by the devil but then realize its not like that? Is this person still going to hell? I believe God forgives whoever repents but i wonder if He would forgive someone who repents from THAT sin, since He said theres no forgiveness for that… you may say whoever commits that unforgivable sin wont repent it but.. what if he does? I mean God’s word doesnt change so what would happen? Would He forgive the person as he promised to forgive anyone who repents or would He let the person go to hell since He said theres no forgiveness for that sin?

    Hope you answer. Thanks.

  61. Luca says:

    Uh.. did i use the word “commit” properly?

  62. Erik says:


    As Ray Fowler has said, if you are worrying about it then you probably have not committed it. The fact you are concerned shows you still have spiritual sensitivity. If you had committed the unpardonable sin you would not bother nor care to post your concerns here. That shows deep down you want to know you have been forgiven. Someone who’s heart has been hardened beyond all hope would not have the slightest bit of concern over what they have done. I had the same concern when I first became a Christian. Just keep seeking God and He will let you know that He has already forgiven you. If you admit to Him that you have sinned, it means you are a sinner and in good company, because Jesus came to die for and forgive sinners. See First John 1:9, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

  63. Luca says:

    Thank you, Erik.

  64. Kaitlyn says:

    I’m extremely worried. Several years ago, I said something I didn’t mean. I was really depressed and stressed out, and I told my friend that I had a demon inside me and that I was the antichrist. I have no idea why I even said that, because I definitely didn’t believe it. It just slipped out of my mouth. I’ve been worried about this for a really long time, and can’t stop worrying about it. I’ve asked God to forgive me and told Him that I still love him and want to be in Heaven with him when I die. Now, I’m scared to die because I think I’m going to hell. Several months after this happened, I started to fall away from the Lord and got into drugs and drinking. I’m now starting to get out of it and wanting to follow the Lord again. I just feel like God won’t forgive me for what I did.

  65. Erik says:


    I use to go through life thinking that God would never forgive me because I kept messing up, and that was after I was saved. I believe your desire to do what is right is from God. All such desires for goodness come from God. You can think of it this way, (I am paraphrasing a preacher who said this) what pushes you away from God is not God but your flesh or Satan, and whatever pulls you or pushes you towards God is the Holy Spirit. Since you have a desire to follow God again, it can only be God calling you back to Himself because Satan certainly would not cause you to go towards God but away from Him. John 3:16 is familiar to most but most may not be familiar with John 3:17 which says, “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.” So He is not waiting to condemn you but to forgive you. Just call out to Him and keep doing so. Jesus said in John 6:37, “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.” That along with 1 John 1:9, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” as well as 2 Peter 3:9, “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance”, shows He is waiting to forgive you. One verse that really sticks with me and shows God’s loving Spirit toward me is Isaiah 1:18, “Come now, and let us reason together, Says the LORD, Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.” While you still have breath, call upon the Lord and He will forgive you.

  66. Ray Fowler says:

    Hello everyone,

    Sorry I haven’t been able to comment, but life circumstances keep me from being actively involved in the blog these days. Thank you all for commenting, and it is nice to see all the interaction still taking place.

    Ray Fowler

  67. Brad says:

    i got saved a month ago and it completly changed my life with the holy spirit then i had this thought, “the bible says the devil is the great deceiver i hope he is not tricking me to thinking im saved” then after that i cannot feel the holy spirit anymore and i feel lost this really concerns me!!!

  68. Kaitlyn says:

    After reading Erik’s response to my post, I felt like the Lord was comforting me because I didn’t seem so worried about it. All of a sudden, I am feeling how Ralf described in his post. When I pray, I feel like God isn’t listening and that he can’t hear me. I feel like I am just talking to myself and that God has nothing to do with me anymore and that the Holy Spirit has left me. This sounds weird, but I now feel like I don’t need to worry anymore about what I had done. I feel that maybe my heart has been so hardened and that is why I don’t feel so concerned. What I am trying to say probably doesn’t make any sense at all. It’s just really hard to describe what I am feeling. I feel maybe either the Lord is comforting me or my heart has been hardened. Maybe I’m just not having enough faith. I’m just really worried now because I had a dream that I was burning in hell. In the dream, I was on a bridge that was over hell, but the bridge somehow broke and I fell in a pool of lava and burned, and I knew that I would never be able to get out of it and I would be burning there forever. When I woke up, half my body felt like it was on fire. I was in physical pain for about 15 minutes. I have no idea what is going on, and it is hard for me to explain how I feel. I don’t know what to do now. I just keep praying that He will forgive me, but I just still feel as if He won’t forgive me and that I have been completely separated from Him.

  69. Erik says:


    I went through the exact same thing when I was first saved. Satan immediately began attacking me with thoughts of doubt of whether I was saved at all. I can tell you it is more likely than not he is attacking you to get you off track and away from God’s will for your life. Do not go by your feelings but go by faith. The Bible says in Ephesians 2:8,9, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” So you have been saved not by your feelings but by your faith in what Jesus Christ has done for you. I went by my feelings for many, many years until God made me realize through His Word, my wife, my pastor and other Christians that my feelings will not keep me in God’s good graces, nor did they save me, so if you have trusted in God’s plan of salvation through Jesus with all your heart and have repented of your sins (lifestyle) (you will still sin since you live in this corrupt world)then you have not lost your salvation. The feelings of excitement will come and go, but God’s love for you will not. Jeremiah 31:3 says, “The LORD has appeared of old (from afar) to me, saying: “Yes I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you.”

  70. Erik says:


    I believe Satan is playing tricks on you and causing you to doubt and live in fear. As the Bible says in 2 Timothy 1:7, “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.” The spirit of fear then is coming from the great deceiver and liar, Satan himself. Satan puts thoughts of fear and doubt in our minds, but we must fight them with prayer and the Word of God. If those thoughts come into your mind, block them out by praying to God to help you. I know it will not be easy, but do not give up. I lived through doubts of not knowing if I was saved and might have set the all-time record for times accepting Christ. Over time God worked on me and the thoughts lessened and eventually went away. Now when I have thoughts contrary to God’s Word, and yes I do have ungodly thoughts after 21 years, I take the attitude of, “Pff, you have got to be kidding me Satan, that does not work anymore. You have lost, Jesus has defeated you. You no longer have power over me. Get lost!” Remember, Satan has lost and that makes him a loser. You are the victor through Christ. From whence comes your help? Psalm 121:1,2 says, “I will lift up my eyes to the hills- From whence comes my help? My help comes from the LORD, Who made heaven and earth.”

  71. carl says:

    Dear Ray, over the past five months i have been hearing blasphemous voices against jesus christ and the holy spirit. voices would say the holy spirit is “demonic” repeatedly. and that jesus is “Demonic” voices would also say things such as i blasphemed the holy spirit. i am going to hell.

    i hear the voices repeatedly. over and over again i hear them. and they do not go away. i believe i have “Committed” the Unforgiveagle sin

    this has Affected my Relationship and Possibally my salvation

  72. Erik says:


    Those thoughts are coming from Satan and not from God. All good things come from The Father above. (James 1:7, “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.” Also, James 1:13, “Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted of God”, for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.” God will only send or give you good thoughts, not evil ones. So turn to Him and He will protect you. Be honest with Him and ask for and accept His help.

  73. Louis Corino says:

    Hello Carl!
    You are apprehensive about having committed the “unpardonable Sin”. Your anxiety bears eloquent that you have not.
    If and when a person commits this sin the Holy spirit departs from them, and as a result they no longer have any interest or concern about the things of God.
    I am praying for you at this time.
    With lots of Christian love,

  74. Louis Corino says:

    Hello Carl!
    You are apprehensive about having committed the “unpardonable Sin”. Your anxiety bears eloquent testimony that you have not.
    If and when a person commits this sin the Holy spirit departs from them, and as a result they no longer have any interest or concern about the things of God.
    I am praying for you at this time.
    With lots of Christian love,

  75. Donna says:

    Hello! Yes, well, I am very concerned because I was filled with the Holy Spirit but this one day a man came into my house and raped me against my will and he also was doing some kind of witchcraft against me and i could not feel the Holy Spirit within me which has made me very afraid! I know that it says in 1Corinthians:3&4- says that our bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit and whosoever defiles the Holy Spirit; Him God will destroy! I have been feeling separation from Christ & the Holy Spirit but Jesus experienced this upon dying on the cross when He cried out to God the Father and said,”my God, my God, why have you forsaken me! i was having a hard time praying and feeling like i had lost Christ and His Holy Spirit but i would pray anyway best i can only to find that yes, indeed, Jesus hears me and He answers me very promptly which brings me to tears that He is still there for me. Please help me anyway you can. TY Donna

  76. Donna says:

    Well, i think it says in 1 Corinthians:3&4- “Whosoever defiles the temple of the Holy Spirit; him God will destroy.”
    To get the passage out here right for everyone. and that ” do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.”

    Does blaspheming the Holy Spirit have anything to do with rape such as i have experienced? Please give me your feedback! TY

  77. Erik says:


    I am sorry that you experienced such a horrific act. Remember, you did not choose to do that, so God will not hold you to account. As far as defiling the temple of the Holy Spirit goes, someone can take drugs or get drunk etc, but the if they ask for forgiveness God will forgive them. They should not continue in those things. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to attribute the works of Jesus or God to Satan. It is not any physical acts. As far as I know, it only could happen when Jesus was physically on Earth. Someone else out there may have a better answer than me, but that is what I know and believe. If someone continually goes back to God to ask for forgiveness He will forgive as 1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” The attitude just cannot be one of, “Oh I will do whatever I want because God will forgive me anyway.” That cannot be our mindset. If you ask from your heart for God to forgive you He will. You will never be perfect and He knows that. That is why Jesus came. The separation you felt is the guilt of what happened and it is not your fault. Satan is and will continue to use that to make you believe you are separated from God. Don’t let him fool you. Romans 8:38, 39 says, “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” John 8:36 says, “If the Son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.” John 6:37, “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.” Remember to not rely on your feelings but have faith in God. Pick yourself up and continue to move towards Him. I encourage you to also talk to a Christian family member or friend you can trust about what happened, as well as your doubts. Please let us know how things turn out. May God continue to comfort you.


  78. Randy says:

    Hi is this blasphemy when you swear at god and Jesus and the holy ghost in your thinking like saying they the s and the d you know this happens in my thinking everyday I try to contoral it it’s in that part where it never shut up when it comes in my thinking then I turn it around and say it to the devil a lot of the times it slips out in my thinking then my thinking say it is blasphemy thinking it or saying it with your mouth and I feel like my heart is harden I dont know what the feeling feel like so did I do blasphemy

  79. carl says:

    wanted to give a update about my situation. the lord revealed to me that i am not blaspheming the holy spirit. and that satan is attacking me and that i in the end will win this battle

  80. Erik says:

    That is great news Carl! Keep seeking the Lord and He will keep and preserve you. (Philippians 1:6)

  81. Randy says:

    Hi ok in my thinking everyday i swar at god and jesus and the holy ghost the baddest names in the world i dont mean to like it says you know jesus is the d word you he cast out that kind word it say he is the d you know it says that about all of them it comes in my thinking every day and i say out loud no and shut up then i start to swear at the devil and i say i love god and jesus and the holy ghost and in my thinking it says he is unclean and i say no out loud every body has bad thinking i think you need to speack from your mouth and heart is that true so did i dod blasphemy i need to know please i feel bad i want god to forgive me.

  82. Jasmine says:

    Hey, I was just wondering if you could answer my question. So i’ve been having all these thoughts about the Holy Spirit and the devil, but just how alot of people have been saying they rejected it i have to. But one day i was walking in the store, completely in anxiety and in distress. And in anger i was like “the Holy Spirit belongs to…” and in my heart or inside me i wanted to say devil but in my thoughts i said God. but fear has been inside me and idk what to do about it. I honestly believe I have done it. Help? :'(

  83. carl says:

    wish ray would answer my questions

  84. Jinna says:

    For a long time I was angry at God…I hated church because it had always been crammed down my throat, as had Bible reading. I tore up those little booklets about salvation (you know what I mean) if I found them.

    Recently, however, I have begun to change. I even asked once “What would You have me do with my life?” before I went to bed and got two dreams…one where I was praying like crazy because of a disaster, and the other where I tried to stop someone from killing dogs.

    Is this a sort of sign that I am still savable? Can I be forgiven for all I did (though I never attributed Jesus’ works to Satan)? Especially the tearing up of the booklets, that never leaves my mind…

    Another thing is this nagging belief that Satan could be saved. I question if he COULD be saved, if he repented.


  85. David says:

    What does attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan mean? Does it mean doing the will of Satan? Well one day I was drunk and high and not in the right mind and I was mad at myself so I wanted to teach myself a lesson. My temper was like a loaded weapon. So I cursed the Holy Spirit about 5 times and then I felt bad so I stopped. I totally forgot that this sin was unforgivable. To make things worse, I then remembered in my mind that this sin is not forgiven. I felt so betrayed in my spirit. I was broken-hearted. I truly wish that I wouldn’t have said anything. Now I worry about it day and night and everytime I open my Bible I turn to the same Scriptures reminded of. I had a dream when I was locked up that I was burned up crying blood. The dream disturbed me dearly and it made me worried. Im scared. I repented 100’s of times and my heart still feels the same. I don’t even feel loved anymore because of my detestable sin. I feel like God doesn’t love me anymore. It really is a bad feeling. Pray for me please! God bless.

  86. anonymus says:

    for 8 months i thought i was guilty of this sin. i would hear voices in my heard that would say the Holy Spirit is Demonic! or the holy spirit has a demon. for 8 long months. i have been tortured with unwanted demonic voices

  87. nancie says:

    know that god forgives and repenting 100 times doesnt matter becuase god heard you the first time. scriptures says he doesnt want us babling on. he wants us to pray and leave it at the altar. the bible says we all fall short of his glory but he has mercy and gives it to us with grace. god knows your heart david. he knows you feel bad about it. so now you have to know that he makes us new creature when we are in him. old things have passed and new things have begun. put it at the feet of jesus. dont beat urself up. he forgave you at the cross.

  88. nancie says:

    hey carl. ur right its the work of satan. but we have power over satan and his dominoins. so claim victory because we are victorious in christ jesus. the devil will always be defeated.

  89. charles says:

    So two things in my life may have happened, i cant remember the exact story but i will say it the best i can remember, god knows i wanna say the truth in this matter. i never knew gods word or the spirits gifts, I have a memory that im sitting on the couch flipping the channels and came across a woman speaking in tongues and said that woman is possessed.

    The second memory is im driving down the road, its either before or right after i came to christ, im picking my kids up at there christian school, a few years before that they where doing halloween and kids were dressing like devils and other stuff, i dont know if it was before or after me coming to christ but i said they were devil worshipers. im not sure of the exact stuff that happened.

    im just ashamed, and fearful of hell fire. I know god is real and Jesus lives. he lives like we breathe. im just feeling down and stressed. I didn’t know these things. am i lost before im saved

  90. Pat Killerby says:

    Charles,I said a prayer for you when I heard your heart cry.The God I have served for 74yrs and the Jesus his beloved son who I found 30 yrs ago and the special Holy Spirit who becomes more real each day and who created you and loves you with an impossible love see,s your heart your longing,s your thought,s fears hopes and dreams you can Trust him.Talk to him say sorry and know you are forgiven accept his forgiveness.Rest assured you are dealing here with someone who knows you better than you know yourself.I spend half my day saying Sorry and the other half saying Thank you and I can almost hear the angels say Oh Oh Pats at it again,learning about this Almighty God can be the loveliest task of life God Bless .

  91. Eric R says:

    When I first started walking with Christ everything was still great, I had a new friend, and new Father, and a new comforter. But I have been struggling with blasphemous thoughts and today, I think I finally committed it and I am doomed. I still want God I still talk to him and still seek him, but feel no forgiveness, maybe I am just another Esau. I love God and would die for him, but I think it’s over for me. I’ll tell you what happen when I woke up this morning to go to church, i don’t know if I was conscious or if it was a thought or verbal, but i believe that I committed it because whether it is verbal or mental I attributed his power to.. I can’t even say it… I don’t even know what I was doing. I deserve hell and If I committed I wish I could die and apologize to God to his face. I pray that I haven’t, but I think I have please pray for me. I am 15 btw.

  92. charles says:

    dont stop talking to him, seek him, i worry about it to, i think i might of said bad things also, but i did then in unbelief and being unlearned to the word of god, i never was conscious of the blasphemy tell i came to Christ, then i would hear bad things in my thoughts, i knew that god wouldn’t do it, just talk with god explain yourself, confess , i to worry about it, may he have mercy on us. he knows we love him, talk to the holy spirit also.

    Peace brother don’t give up, fight the good fight even if we lose, also, its so unfair that the devil could use this against us, trick us or make us, or commit this sin not knowing god is so heart braking, im sure he has been painting the picture to set many people up to commit this, when normally people wouldn’t dare! god is just, remember that.

  93. carl says:

    I See my comment wasnt posted i geuss im not that important, anyway i geuss ive “committed the unpardonable sin” these voices i have been hearing for Nine Months keeps uttering Blasphemies all day and Night… saying the Holy spirit is Demonic. or satanic. or a nigger killer. or a demon killer.

    the voices tell me if i keep telling on them and praying to God they would keep uttering blaspemies against the holy spirit. and when i do turn away from god they stop.

    but when i go back to god they come right back, im to the point where i want to die. this time last summer i wasnt hearing voices i was on fire for the Lord.

    they keep demanding my soul and want me to say hail satan, the other night at 4am they kept harassing me! and something i had nailed to the wall just all of a sudden feel and the glass broke everywhere…. i know Satan was respondsible for it.

    im just tired, ive been doing this on my own for nine months. and its not working and they will not go away. i geuss i am doomed for hell

  94. carl says:

    i see nobody commented on what i posted july 3rd

  95. Jinna says:

    You really cannot give up. There is a reason they stop when you stop praying.

    They think they’ve won.

    You do not let them win.

  96. charles says:

    Yea man, i to fear i might of commited this sin unknowingly or unwilling, in ignorance and unbelief or by trickery. i think it is a horrible tool for the enemy to have, he can get you to utter a single word and thats it your dead forever. dont seem just to me but who am i.

    He has been working to get many to commit this sin, im sure that god has seen this. he knows are hearts and mind. its sad to know the truth and love god with all your heart to find out you might not be forgiven for something in the past that you did. makes you wounder why god has called you to jesus right? LISTEN to his call if he is calling you and you can repent, id say thats a good sign god is still there in some way. even if it is just mercy without forgiveness.

    I also wonder why god drew me to jesus,i can only pray everyday that if i did commit this sin there is still away to be forgiven. Doing it in unbelief or ignorance or for what ever the reason, it still kills me and scares me

  97. carl says:


  98. charles says:

    CARL! Thats Great!

  99. Ray Fowler says:

    Hello everyone,

    Sorry I haven’t been able to comment, but life circumstances keep me from being actively involved in the blog these days. Thank you all for commenting, and it is good to see all the interaction still taking place.

    Ray Fowler

  100. Eric R says:

    None. I mean of you can committed such sin. I thought I did, but how can one do such a sin and still pray, still ask for forgiveness, and still love God and still work for him, commit this sin? You can’t it’s impossible. If you love God you have not committed such sin. This is committed out of hatred and with full knowledge and full consent and no regard of the consequences. If it was a thought, you have thought, you have not committed it. Blasphemy is to speak against. Is a thought speaking against? No. A thought is a thought, not the sin it self. I have had bad thoughts about all of the Trinity, but they are just thoughts. You are taking your knowledge of God and saying he won’t forgive you. He will. It’s unpardonable because they finally slipped the line, when they saw Jesus performing miracles in front of their eyes and knew the crowd would believe and to lead people astray they said he casted out the devil with Beelzebub. And Jesus said that will not be forgiven, because they said he was exactly what he was not and did so because they hated Jesus and God. I hope this opens some eyes and too show and stop dwelling on this and ask for forgiveness and move on. Don’t be fooled. I still deal with this pesky thoughts, but if you are born-again you can’t be lost, you are secure and I have loads of versus to prove you are. Take common knowledge for example, why would God save you if he knew you would blaspheme his spirit. I don’t believe you can even commit it, but that is still debated. STOP DWELLING ON NOT BEING ABLE TO BE FORGIVEN. You are not being reasonable here. God will not cast anyone who has the precious blood of Jesus on them away into Hell. He just won’t.
    John 10:28 And I give to them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    NEVER PERISH. If your faith is in Christ Jesus you are saved forever and will be with God when you die. Don’t be deceived by evil forces trying to steal and destroy your joy and happiness and security. It don’t matter how much you sin or if you had a bad thought about him, he is ready to forgive. If you don’t believe me then just pray. Stop praying for forgiveness of that sin, just say “Let your will be done”

    2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. He doesn’t want anyone to perish. Repentance is a change of mind. I hope this blesses and helps anyone who is going through this. I myself am going through bad trials, but know that the Lord is willing to forgive all! I ask for your prayers that I get through my trials!

  101. Erik N says:

    I agree with Eric R that if someone has any desire to do God’s will, and even wants to ask for forgiveness, then they have not committed the unpardonable sin. You would have absolutely no desire whatsoever to even search for God. Also, the fact that it would bother you is a sign you have not committed the unpardonable sin. Why would someone so opposed to God, which is what someone would be if they had committed the unpardonable sin, want to be forgiven and in right standing with Him? That person would want to get as far away from Him as possible. I had thought I had committed that sin, but I was so worried and afraid, that I finally realized it could not have happened. I drifted from God for years, unrelated to that fear, but have now come back, and I know that would not have happened if I had been forever separated from God. I only say that to show that I have gone through the same as many here, but yet here I am, desperately seeking God. I so wanted to be back in His grace. My life is a reflection of 2 Peter 3:9, where God through Peter says, “not willing that any should perish.” So to anyone who has any fear that they have committed the unpardonable sin, remember, 2 Timothy 1:7, “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.” So fear comes from Satan and the demons, and not the Eternal, Loving and Forgiving Creator God.

  102. Erik N says:

    I say desparately seeking God in a good way, wanting to be just like Jesus in my daily walk. I like other Christians am not perfect, just forgiven. Remember 1 John 1:9 as well, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” Like Eric R. and I have said, if you want to be forgiven, you will be forgiven.

  103. Patricia Navarro says:

    Dear Ray,
    I am worried I have committed blasphemy against the HS. But let me tell you the whole story. Ever since I have heard of blaspheming the HS is the unforgiveable sin, I have been thinking blasphemous thoughts. Not because I believe them! I am horrified of them. Once I think of them, I immediately feel scared, worried and guilty. I pray to God everytime that happens, asking Him for forgiveness. Is that the same? I love God, I want my sins to be forgiven. I do not want to turn my back on God, but seems my thoughts have. What’s worse is that, once I have been cured of thinking blasphemous thoughts, because I really didn’t mean them, and I prayed to God for forgiveness is that it’s still nagging me. On the back of my mind. Sometimes I invision Jesus with horns. He is still up in Heaven, and I still believe He is good. There is a halo above His head too. This is only the odd time. Most of the time, he only has the halo. But I am worried. Have I committed blasphemy because I imagine Him with horns? I do not want to think about this. If I do, I try to imagine Him with them. I am scared. Worried God is not going to forgive me. I am horrified at what awaits me when I die. Dying seems so far away, and I think to myself, why is life worth living if I have committed the unpardonable sin? God can’t forgive me if I did do it. Sometimes I think of suicide. Doesn’t matter if it’s a sin, because I have already sinned a sin so terrible. Is there a possible salvation for me? I hope so. I believe God is good, in my heart and soul. Does God look into the heart, not the mind? These thoughts continue to haunt me. I’m crying as I write this, because I am worried. I can’t speak to my priest or anyone, because I’m scared they will think I’m crazy. I pray to God, night and day to relieve me of these thoughts. I am scared he doesn’t hear them already. Please help. I am 12. Too young to be thinking these things, I know. I am Roman Catholic. Grew up in a loving, caring family who deeply believed in God. What is wrong with me? PLEASE HELP.

  104. Patricia Navarro says:

    Sorry, just had to add something here. If I close my eyes, I invision Jesus perfect, in every way. No horns, just His halo. Does this help my plea? And, if I concentrate really hard, I can see Jesus in his perfect glory with his halo. So does this mean that these thoughts are not by me? Does it mean these thoughts are from Satan? I really don’t want to see Jesus this way. In fact, I don’t believe it, really. In my head I say that Jesus is NOT evil, and the horns disappear. Does this mean I have hope for salvation? I’m sorry if I have asked the same question too many times. I am just a girl worried for my salvation. Please help, I do not want to be like those people that have been plagued by these thoughts for years. I want to be free of them. I want God to forgive me, the Holy Spirit be with me always. How do you know the HS is still with you?

  105. Eric R says:

    Patricia, I can tell you are very worried and love Jesus. Let me assure you something, you have not committed it. No saved person can commit it. If you are washed by the blood of Jesus you haven’t commit it. Those thoughts are not yours. So do not claim them or let them torture you, I found out the hard way. You will NEVER perish if you are saved. Never means never and don’t let anyone tell you that you can. They are trying to scare you or are ignorant of the scriptures. God said he will never leave or forsake us, even if we leave him, he will pursue you and find you. He is the Good Shepherd and He is forgiving. Don’t be discouraged thoughts are thoughts our brains are made to produce them. God loves you and do not let those pesky annoying thoughts annoy you. Just trust on God and everything will be fine. You have the Holy Spirit or you wouldn’t be wondering, you wouldn’t care and would hate God. You are in a valley, try to make the best of it and learn God is trying to make your faith better by relying on him. Also the Devil will try to accuse you of being many things, atheist, blasphemer, unforgivable. He’s trying to make you miserable because you have a good heart. If you need more assurance I am here and will assure you.

  106. Erik N says:


    Take comfort in the fact, as weird as it sounds, that you are worried and afraid that you have committed the unpardonable sin. It just means that you have not. If you had committed it, then it would not even bother you. But God sees your heart and He knows that you do not want to blaspheme Jesus. Those thoughts will be put into your head by Satan to distract you and to draw you away from God. Just keep on seeking and trusting Jesus, and He will draw you closer. James 4:7 says, “Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.” So go towards God and the devil will run away like the coward he is. Keep seeking God and confessing your sins of doubt and blasphemies, as He will forgive you. Do not worry, God is waiting for you. He loves you. We all sin, yet if we confess our sins, He will forgive us as stated in 1 John 1:9. He does look at your heart. Look up 1 Samuel 16:6. So when He sees you’re seeking after Him, He is pleased.

  107. Eric R says:

    Patricia another thing, it is best not to make an image of Jesus. Don’t worship an image of Jesus, worship Jesus through prayer and spirit.

  108. Patricia Navarro says:

    Thank you, Eric! This really helped me. It brought ears to my eyes to know that there is still hope! I can’t thank you enough!
    God Bless,

  109. Patricia Navarro says:

    Dear Eric,
    I wanted to say another thing. Once I think of something terrible, it sticks in my head. No matter how bad, it always does. Like this image I’ve been seeing. I am worried these thoughts are beginning to be mine because it just stays there. I don’t want to think these thoughts. Does this sound silly? If I do, I pray to God for forgiveness every time. I think I think have OCD, even if I am too young to have it. I’m sorry again Eric. Can you help again?

  110. Eric R says:

    Patricia, the Devil or one his loser minions start to get desperate so they try to convince you they their thoughts is yours. Relax I went through the same thing.

  111. Patricia Navarro says:

    Thank you both Erics! 🙂 You have no idea how much you have helped me! Thank you! These thoughts have more or less vanished. I guess they have gone away.

  112. carl says:

    i really wish ray or somebody would respond to my comments, it seems patricia has been getting most of the replies. anyway i have left christianity temporary because i am tired of the devils games.

    just this morning he appeared to me in a vision when i was trying to read the bible. and told me if i kept disobeying him and seeking god he would say the holy spirit is a demon.

    i go through this just about everyday, for almost a year this has gone on. sometimes i wonder if God even Exist and if he does why is he allowing this to happen?

    i think sometime suicide is the best option, for ten months the devil has been speaking to me Audibly saying the holy spirit is a demon, demonic, satanic, all these things.

    many so called christians i have shared this with, some tried to make fun of me and said i was having a chemical imbalance. which is false. others say im crazy. if thats the case then the prophets and moses, joshua, david, samuel, samson and the others are crazy then for hearing audible voices.

    i was rejected by my last church home when i told my former money hungry pastor about this. all he told me to do was repent. why should i repent. these voices arent mine.

    this is my last time posting about this. if ray or anyone else doesnt respond then im just done with life and religion

  113. Eric R says:

    Carl, I am sorry that this is happening to you. If you are worried,you haven’t committed it. I don’t know how much clearer you can get. You are listening to the Devil more than God. God never left you and never will. If you are saved you are sealed by the Holy Spirit who is much much much I can’t even strain how much more powerful God is than the Devil. The Devil is the Accuser, but call him his real name The Loser. He lost on Calvary. You are believing the Loser when his only purpose is to seek, steal and destroy. I can’t convince you that you haven’t done it you have been drawn in a lie and only God’s word can break the lie. You haven’t committed or you wouldn’t care. God is real, don’t let the Loser try to convince you that he isn’t real that’s another lie. He is trying to pull you away from God, God is silent because you choose to listen to the Loser instead of God. I went through the lies, they are just lies and that’s all they are. If you fall away God will find you. He will find you. Defy the Loser he is defeated don’t let him get victory over you. 1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

  114. charles says:

    Its a attack man. Would god say them things? Nope. Would the spirit say them things ? No. Why would you give up, Fight the good Fight. eric is right the devil lost. He wants to drag you to hell, why would you give your hand to him? Give it to god.

    Also can somemore people respond to my post above also =)

  115. Jasmine says:

    Hey, i’ve been reading these comments and they have really helped. Honestly, ive been going throug this for a couple of months, but Glory to GOD that the voices ended a long time ago. But my real concern now is that, i KNOW That i have commited this sin. I think? I mean i dont think or remember if you said anything out loud, but i know in my heart i wouldnt. But i say ALOT of stuff in my mind about this stuff, and it worries me. I want it to stop but everytime i pray i just feel hopeless. Ive lost all hope, and i just dont know what to do, i really want to just get passed this and continue my life with Jesus but i honestly feel like its all over for me now. The thing is that when i pray i ask GOD “GOD did i blasphemy your Holy Spirit” and i always hear “yes” but i remember my mom saying “No GOD would never tell you that” but idk. Why wouldnt He? Hes GOD and He can do and say whatever He needs to to me. I just lost all faith and hope and im gotten so weary and weak. Im scared to pray because i read a comment that said “im always praying because i commited this sin” and i just think the same like that. I just really need some words, i really want GOD to speak directly to me in hope that i can move on. But i just have a feeling that ive done this sin.

  116. Jay says:

    Carl, its not ur fault that u have been under attack. u said this time last summer that u were on fire for God. THAT IS REAL. Hold onto that. Because if u were on fire bfore, then u can be on fire again. But u have to hang in there, i know how hard it is, ive been thru it, but u cant leave God, becuz if you do then u are doing exactly what the devil wants. The key is to fight the devil 10x as hard as he fights you. If you hear voices, shout to God until you cant hear them,if u have those thoughts when ur reading the bible, just keep reading, God KNOWS that u dont want this! Trust me. He KNOWS what ur going thru. But u cant quit, becuz it wont go away. Go back to God, and live for him the way u know how, just like u did bfore, and u WILL BEAT THIS STRUGGLE.

  117. Eric R says:

    Jasmine, you are relying on your feelings. That’s not God telling you “yes” if you did, he wouldn’t tell you anything. And your heart would be hardened and you wouldn’t care about God and hate him. Don’t let your mind become the Devil’s playground. Remember God’s grace is greater than sin. Do not worry, once the Devil realizes or his stupid clever minions figure out you are no longer affected by this sin they will try to find another way to attack you. But remember no matter how you feel God is real and he will never leave you or forsake you. I am going through a time right now that I question God’s existence but I know that this is another one of the Devil’s ways to torture me, but thanks to God I am becoming closer to God. The big thing is, don’t rely on feelings they are inaccurate. Don’t get to a point like I am, he is there even though your feelings may reject it. It might just be that you need to move on and go forward with your relationship with Jesus. I pray that our faith will be restored and or minds renewed and our hearts soften in Jesus’ name.

  118. Eric R says:

    If anyone needs help please feel free to write me. I will help you to the best of my ability. Rodvaneric@yahoo.com

  119. carl says:

    i emailed you eric but i am beyond help

  120. anonymus says:

    Looking for Ray Fowler to help me with this situation i am in. the so called christian who posted on here wasnt no help at all but judgemental

  121. anonymus says:

    What can we help you with? Who are you referring to so called christian?

  122. anonymus says:

    who was judgemental? ive read the post?

  123. Eric R says:

    Probably talking about me. Apparently I am a considered a Pharisee.. because I tried to help someone and they got offended because I tried to help. If anyone needs help you can message me…. email Rodvaneric@yahoo.com

  124. anonymus says:

    That is a Total Lie and you Know it. so stop trying to Twist stuff around.

  125. Eric R says:

    Carl, I will gladly post everything I wrote and they can be the judge…. But, I careless what they think of me, and If I am hypocrite then why would I waste my time writing 10 emails too you trying to help you? Why would I offer my email for anyone in need of help? I am not willing to hurt someone because they don’t even know what judgemental is. I didn’t mean to offend you Carl, but you would think someone as desperate as you say you are would be willing with an open mind try to find help. You are unforgiving… I gave you advise, options, help, videos, but because I said you may want to go to a Christian psychiatrist because I think you might have OCD like I do.. I see no judgement in that? I have it so am I judging myself? Judging is saying what their hearts are.. I never called you anything bad, but help. Again, I could care less what people think of me.. Only what God thinks of me.

  126. Eric R says:

    Carl, you called me a pharisee and “a so called Christian” that’s a little harsh isn’t it? Especially since I am 15… But I forgive you because you thought I was saying something is wrong with you… That’s not what I meant, OCD is not bad. Millions have it…

  127. Chris says:

    Its ok Eric,u didnt do anything wrong. I actually know who carl is. He posted on christianforums about a year ago(in the OCD forum no less). and then when somebody simply told him that his problem sounded like OCD, he got mad and left the forum. So many people on there tried to help him, but he said he was going to be counseled by a pastor and i guess when that didnt work out, he came here. I check websites like these because having struggled with this issue myself i like to help others, but yeah thats the same guy.

  128. carl says:

    Chris you are a liar i never been on no christian Forum website. And Lastly i dont Have OCD. if i Have OCD. then so Does. Abraham. Moses. David. and the prophets and the Apostles

  129. chuck says:

    This is the Same Carl from the Daily Audio Bible website. Carl i Even tried Helping you out and you got mad at me and told me not to call you anymore… This is the same Carl who also Called in the Daily Audio Bible Prayer Line about this same situation.

    Yes That is the Same Carl.

  130. Tama says:

    Seriously, Carl, unless you are hoarding or always washing hands til they bleed or in some other way altering your life for the negative, there’s nothing that BAD about OCD. You don’t need to get upset when people say that you have it.

  131. carl says:

    Wow Now all of a sudden Everybody is following me from site to site? you Christians are messed up.

  132. Tama says:

    Or maybe they keep up with several sources of Christian wisdom and this is all pure coincidence.

  133. carl says:


  134. Anonymus says:

    Not Posting my Name but I Do know for a Fact that this is The same Carl because i Got him set up with some Bible Counseling Near where he Lives and from what i was Told Carl Got Angry and told them Not to come back to his Home ever again.

    Carl you were Told what to do about this Situation Many Many Times

  135. carl says:

    You five are just trying to stir up some trouble to run me off this site! if this is the company Ray Fowler Keeps then i wont Post here anymore. i dont need a 15 year old kid telling me what i have when he is still in school and doesnt know much himself.

    As for Chris and Chuck prove im the same person im not the Only Carl in the world. Now i wonder next who will be posting in here pretending to know me

  136. Tama says:

    No one’s trying to run you off, Carl. We’re happy for you to get/find help here. We just don’t understand why you’re so upset.

  137. Chris says:

    Carl, u say us five are tryin to stir up trouble to run you off this site? Whats the point of that, ur just gonna go to another site anyways and get mad at them when they try to help you. We all know its you on these websites, and soo many people have tried to help u online and in the real world, but u just throw it in their face when you decide you dont like it.

    and ur callin people Pharisees? Lets analyze that, whos the one who gets mad when people try to help him and then compares himself to the apostles before going to the next website. Ur calling Eric a pharisee, all of us judgemental,you blamed the people on christianforums for ur worry, just like u did on every other website, how bout ray fowler is he a pharisee too? See you’ve been going thru this for a year,asking the same questions on countless websites, getting the same help, and it hasnt gotten u nowhere. The weird thing is the whole time the answer was right in front of in the form of God.I know exactly what ur going thru,everyone here does, this struggle is one of the most difficult that ANYBODY can possibly go thru, i wont deny that, but these thoughts/voices cant MAKE you stop living for God, none of us can MAKE you stop living for God. Thats ur own choice, and you urself said u left the faith. You see you’ve become ur own worst enemy, you’ve become what u hate, all because u refuse to take anyones advice and keep living for God.

    You blame everybody else cuz they dont tell you what u wanna hear. Well guess what? Nothing anybody says is gonna be enough to ease your mind and its certainly not anybodies fault that ur not on fire for God like you used to be. Its YOURS.

  138. charlie says:

    Hey guys, lets not give up on trying to help him, i feel like we are being to harsh, even if he wants to get mad and call us names and be harsh to us. Dont give up on him, did god give on us? As believers only gods words will help him, even if there isn’t a answer of are fate. I believe if god can forgive you, HE WILL. He dont want any of us to die. Carl i will pray for you, dont walk away because the enemy gets into your mind. i hear blasphmeys all the time its scary that one day they could slip out and god wont forgive me. Im sure he knows i would never do it intentionally. My heart knows that the holy spirit is holy and is good fruit.

  139. jon paul says:

    wow chris even if this guy is the same person you are harassing him by following him from site to site. there is a such a thing called freedom of speech.

    he may very well be the same person i googled this subject up and somebody who situation is similar to his is on different sites talking about it.

  140. anonymus says:

    Hello Carl, thank you for sending me the link to this site! first of all i am carls pastor and he shared this with me many many times… i am shocked that satan is now using christians to attack this young man when he is trying to express this situation

    Carl you need to stop sharing this with people you do not know. because some are Foolish and just dont care about you and will say whatever they wanna say and dont care if it Offends you.

  141. carl says:

    CHRIS CHRIS CHRIS! HOLD THE PHONE BRUH YOU DONT KNOW ME. first of all i had to reply to this comment because you have ran your mouth so much to the point i wanted to come here and curse you out but i know that is what you want. i wanna say first off JUDGE NOT LEASE YOU BE JUDGED! GET THE PLANK OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE “HYPOCRITE” BEFORE CASTING STONES. LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.

    Now then first off i do not have OCD. i told my pastor about this last night and he even said how much of a idiot you are. and how i need to stop telling people i dont know about this.

    you must be Gay since you follow me from site to site. you still havent posted yet what sites i allegently been on. since you are posting under different names pretending to know me.

    what ever i talk about to somebody else is non of your damn business! lastly i blame whoever the hell i wanna blame. you dont know me and you dont wanna know me eiter.

    and learn to spell Because. Not CUZ. are you from the Ghetto Now?

    Piece of Trash

  142. carl says:

    Lastly chris whenever you are in Reno Nevada area and wanna talk trash let me know ill be glad to meet you. you dont know a thing about me. whatever i post on this site or any other site is not YOUR BUSINESS.

  143. Eric R says:

    Carl’s pastor, did you read any of the post? Or are you just Carl acting like you are your own pastor. You are either a fool or you are Carl.

  144. Ray Fowler says:

    Hey gang, this has gone on long enough. Thank you everyone for your comments, but this is no longer productive. I am going to go ahead and close comments on this post.

  145. A. says:

    Hi Ralph,

    I am curious how youre doing now?
    Is there a possibility to contact you?
    Hope to read your reponse.


  146. John says:

    Hello guys.

  147. You cannot blaspheme in our day. This is the disposition of the church age. However you can harden your heart as in the day of provocation. If you don’t repent under the grace and love of God, you sure won’t under the judgement of God. The same sun that melts the snow, hardens the clay. Its the object that determines the outcome.

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