Sunday Morning Soundbytes 5/13/2007

Doing Church Together | Lou Kochanek

Yesterday’s message was the fifth in the Doing Church Together series from the book of 1 Timothy. The message was called, Respecting God’s Order in Gender, taken from 1 Timothy 2:8-15.

1 Timothy 2:8-15
8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.
9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing — if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. (NIV)

The main idea of the message was that we should respect God’s order in gender for the church just as we do for the home. Here is a brief recap of the message:

One of the most controversial issues facing the church today is the place of women in ministry. How do men and women minister in the church? Do men and women function differently in ministry? Are there different roles according to gender? Or to put it another way, is there a God-ordained order in gender for church life and ministry?

Ephesians 5 teaches us that God has assigned different roles to the husband and wife in marriage. Wives are to submit to their husbands as the church submits to Christ, and the husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. Just as there is an order in gender for the home, so also there is an order in gender for “God’s household, which is the church of the living God.” (1 Timothy 3:15)

This does not mean that men are better than women, or that women are not gifted for ministry, or that men have the right to boss their wives around. The Bible teaches us that men and women are created equally in God’s image, and they are of equal value in God’s eyes. Moreover, we read in the New Testament that when it comes to our standing with God in Christ that “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:26) The Bible never gives men grounds to treat any woman with disrespect, but rather teaches men to love, honor, and respect women at all times. It is not a matter of different value or standing, but rather of different roles in the church and in the home.

Earlier in chapter two, Paul spoke about the importance of praying for those in authority so that believers may live out their Christian testimony without interference. Now, Paul gives further instructions on how to live out that testimony as the body of Christ. He gives specific instructions to both men and women, addressing areas of particular concern for each gender.

Men are to be men of prayer, backed up by holy living and avoiding the particular sins of anger and disputing. Women are to dress modestly, not drawing attention to themselves with outward beauty or costly adornment, but rather adorning their lives with good deeds. Women should also respect God’s order in gender by not assuming the role of teaching authority over men in the church.

This is a controversial subject, and it is important to realize that there are good Christians who love God and seek to be faithful to Scripture, but who still come out on different sides of this issue. We need to extend grace to those who disagree with us without compromising our own Scriptural convictions in this area.

Note: To read the complete message, go to the Sermons tab at the top of the blog.


  1. Sharon Gamble says:

    Thanks for the further explanation of what “keep silent” probably meant. I never could reconcile that with other passages where women prayed or prophesied in worship. I love the idea that I am to listen attentively and in stillness, kind of “soaking it up”. It really helped me make sense of a passage that has confused me for a long time.

  2. April deJongh says:

    Jacob and I, again this Sunday, were so impressed with the message. One of the many reasons we were drawn to ACB is because of the 100% Bible based messages. We love the fact that if the subject is controversial, or not, Pastor Ray preaches from the Bible. He does not try to sugar coat the passage with some of todays world views.

  3. Barrie says:

    I agree with April, Pastor Ray does preach the Bible. I used to hear him preach when he was in Plantation Florida.

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