Comments on: The Golden Compass vs. Narnia Box Office Results http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/ Thoughts on God and life from a Christian perspective Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:51:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dhaval http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-22629 Dhaval Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:03:07 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-22629 Golden Compass Is The Best Of Best Movie I Ever See. Golden Compass Is The Best Of Best Movie I Ever See.

]]> By: Ray Fowler http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-8510 Ray Fowler Wed, 31 Mar 2010 02:21:52 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-8510 <b>Megan</b> - Wow, it sounds like you are a real loyal Golden Compass fan! :-) Have you read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe or just seen the movie? If you've only seen the movie, let me encourage you to read the book. I think you will really enjoy it. Thanks for stopping by and commenting! Megan – Wow, it sounds like you are a real loyal Golden Compass fan! :-) Have you read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe or just seen the movie? If you’ve only seen the movie, let me encourage you to read the book. I think you will really enjoy it. Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

]]> By: Megan Huskey http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-8509 Megan Huskey Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:26:32 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-8509 You people do'nt now who you are! Think about what Iorek did for Lyra protecting her from evreything. Think of Iorek, Sarafina Pekkala, Mr. Scorseby, and all the Gyptions fighting the Samoyeds, Tarter Guards, Lord Asrial, and Mrs. Coulter to get Lyra safe. The Cronicales Of Narnia did'nt do anything like that but just battle. Iorek killed Ragnar to protected Lyra from being Ragnar's demon when Lyra already has a demon. Now who do you realy vote for The Golden Compass or The Cronicales Of Narnia. You people do’nt now who you are! Think about what Iorek did for Lyra protecting her from evreything. Think of Iorek, Sarafina Pekkala, Mr. Scorseby, and all the Gyptions fighting the Samoyeds, Tarter Guards, Lord Asrial, and Mrs. Coulter to get Lyra safe. The Cronicales Of Narnia did’nt do anything like that but just battle. Iorek killed Ragnar to protected Lyra from being Ragnar’s demon when Lyra already has a demon. Now who do you realy vote for The Golden Compass or The Cronicales Of Narnia.

]]> By: Ray Fowler http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7945 Ray Fowler Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:58:00 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7945 <b>Jenn</b> - No offence taken at all. I appreciate the points you are raising. Thank you for taking the time to share. :-) Jenn – No offence taken at all. I appreciate the points you are raising. Thank you for taking the time to share. :-)

]]> By: Jenn http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7944 Jenn Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:52:58 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7944 point well taken. Sorry if I offended. point well taken.
Sorry if I offended.

]]> By: Jenn http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7943 Jenn Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:49:50 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7943 about the faith/no faith/science thing... The book isn't about not having faith. These people have faith. the book takes place in a different world, God does in full form exist in this world. It's "anti-Christian" perspective lies in its anti-Orthodox view of a semi-Jewish/Christian god. The God in the book does not take on the same form that we as Christians would like to see. It is uncomfortable but one must understand that it is about another take on the faith, not about God not existing or something like that. It is more of a ancient Jewish mysticism approach to God (which I may remind you was closer to its roots) God is not good or evil, he is a vengeful powerful Character (think old testament) his angels are servants (which is where the root of the angel 'myth' came from.) about the faith/no faith/science thing…
The book isn’t about not having faith. These people have faith. the book takes place in a different world, God does in full form exist in this world.

It’s “anti-Christian” perspective lies in its anti-Orthodox view of a semi-Jewish/Christian god. The God in the book does not take on the same form that we as Christians would like to see. It is uncomfortable but one must understand that it is about another take on the faith, not about God not existing or something like that. It is more of a ancient Jewish mysticism approach to God (which I may remind you was closer to its roots) God is not good or evil, he is a vengeful powerful Character (think old testament) his angels are servants (which is where the root of the angel ‘myth’ came from.)

]]> By: jenn http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7941 jenn Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:31:39 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7941 To Bethany, The reason most of the things seem so disjointed are because the movies was the retelling of the first book, which is essentially the first volume of a continuous story. Trying to split it into three completely separate stories doesn't really work, you sort of have to take all three as a whole. So of course the story seemed to have a hodge-podge overarching plot. I understand your comments and also felt that the movie was a little too CG and jumpy, the book is this way too but because it is a book it doesn't feel wrong. Much like LOTR, they move from a forest with trees to a mountain with spiders etc, it is because you first read the books that it doesn't seem jumpy. Anyways the other GC books don't seem to be being movieified and I don't suggest that you read the book if you are against the anti-Christian fantasy literature thing. Reading fantasy is for enjoyment and should be done for that reason. Anyways this isn't meant to be crass. I like your comments and they made me think again about how good the movie actually was, it reminded me that one of the reasons I liked the movie so much was because I LOVE the books. Much like Harry Potter the books are better, the movies are good mostly because we get to see the things we read in 'real life.' Ok enough of that. To Bethany,

The reason most of the things seem so disjointed are because the movies was the retelling of the first book, which is essentially the first volume of a continuous story. Trying to split it into three completely separate stories doesn’t really work, you sort of have to take all three as a whole. So of course the story seemed to have a hodge-podge overarching plot.

I understand your comments and also felt that the movie was a little too CG and jumpy, the book is this way too but because it is a book it doesn’t feel wrong. Much like LOTR, they move from a forest with trees to a mountain with spiders etc, it is because you first read the books that it doesn’t seem jumpy.

Anyways the other GC books don’t seem to be being movieified and I don’t suggest that you read the book if you are against the anti-Christian fantasy literature thing. Reading fantasy is for enjoyment and should be done for that reason.

Anyways this isn’t meant to be crass. I like your comments and they made me think again about how good the movie actually was, it reminded me that one of the reasons I liked the movie so much was because I LOVE the books. Much like Harry Potter the books are better, the movies are good mostly because we get to see the things we read in ‘real life.’

Ok enough of that.

]]> By: Ray Fowler http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7942 Ray Fowler Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:29:14 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7942 <b>Jenn</b> - Thanks for commenting. Both your points are well-taken. However, I still think the anti-religious content of the books had the biggest impact on its lack of success at the box office. I had never heard of the Golden Compass when I first saw the trailer in the movie theaters. My first reaction was positive, and I was already thinking of bringing my family. Then when I learned more what the books were about and the author's stated intention in his books, I lost interest. I think there were lots of families like mine that were more than ready for another great fantasy movie but were turned off by the anti-religious themes. Jenn – Thanks for commenting. Both your points are well-taken. However, I still think the anti-religious content of the books had the biggest impact on its lack of success at the box office. I had never heard of the Golden Compass when I first saw the trailer in the movie theaters. My first reaction was positive, and I was already thinking of bringing my family. Then when I learned more what the books were about and the author’s stated intention in his books, I lost interest. I think there were lots of families like mine that were more than ready for another great fantasy movie but were turned off by the anti-religious themes.

]]> By: Jenn http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7940 Jenn Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:19:37 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7940 I think your leaving out two key points. Golden compass did not do so well in sales because: a) LOTR and Narnia are both much older books, they have a following and people remember them from their childhoods. Harry Potter has a following because it became a fad. Although Golden Compass was a best seller etc. it is also true that it wasn't so much of a large scale fad as any of these others. b)Golden Compass was the last of these great fantasy movies to come out. Everyone who saw the trailers and who had not previously read the books saw the movie to be a copy of others. They saw it to be just another movie trying to ride on the tail feathers of other magical world movies. We see this pattern in other things as well. For example, how many vampire related movies tv shows and books have started only because of the popularity of Twilight. Personally I enjoyed the book of Golden compass much more than any of these other books, except perhaps LOTR. I found it much deeper than Harry Potter. More simple than LOTR (which isn't necessarily better but from a children's standpoint...) and I don't know why I disliked Narnia, I guess I have no excuse there, I just found it didn't keep my interest. As for the movies we don't have to worry about the complexity of the language, LOTR is almost as accessible to children as Harry Potter. It is therefore sad that there will be no more His Dark Material movies. The story is no where near complete. For Golden Compass is not like Narnia where you can tell one section and not another. It is in essence three volumes of the same book. We will never really see the true climax to the story (nor even the beginning of its complexity) on the big screen. I think your leaving out two key points. Golden compass did not do so well in sales because:
a) LOTR and Narnia are both much older books, they have a following and people remember them from their childhoods. Harry Potter has a following because it became a fad. Although Golden Compass was a best seller etc. it is also true that it wasn’t so much of a large scale fad as any of these others.
b)Golden Compass was the last of these great fantasy movies to come out. Everyone who saw the trailers and who had not previously read the books saw the movie to be a copy of others. They saw it to be just another movie trying to ride on the tail feathers of other magical world movies. We see this pattern in other things as well. For example, how many vampire related movies tv shows and books have started only because of the popularity of Twilight.

Personally I enjoyed the book of Golden compass much more than any of these other books, except perhaps LOTR. I found it much deeper than Harry Potter. More simple than LOTR (which isn’t necessarily better but from a children’s standpoint…) and I don’t know why I disliked Narnia, I guess I have no excuse there, I just found it didn’t keep my interest.

As for the movies we don’t have to worry about the complexity of the language, LOTR is almost as accessible to children as Harry Potter.

It is therefore sad that there will be no more His Dark Material movies. The story is no where near complete. For Golden Compass is not like Narnia where you can tell one section and not another. It is in essence three volumes of the same book. We will never really see the true climax to the story (nor even the beginning of its complexity) on the big screen.

]]> By: Ray Fowler http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7762 Ray Fowler Sat, 23 May 2009 17:09:27 +0000 http://www.rayfowler.org/2007/12/10/the-golden-compass-vs-narnia-box-office-results/#comment-7762 <b>Corey</b> I have not read The Golden Compass (nor seen the movie), but I can see why people who view religion as something negative would probably be drawn more towards Compass then Narnia. However, I don't think you can break it down into categories of science versus faith. I'm a science guy, too, but I also have faith. Perhaps faith and non-faith are better categories. Corey I have not read The Golden Compass (nor seen the movie), but I can see why people who view religion as something negative would probably be drawn more towards Compass then Narnia. However, I don’t think you can break it down into categories of science versus faith. I’m a science guy, too, but I also have faith. Perhaps faith and non-faith are better categories.

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